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It's amazing how I have listened to people herald QBs that had complete squads around them and weren't asked to carry the team as winners for years and now all of a sudden the rules have changed for Russell :what:. I dare somebody to name me the QBs that have had won multiple rings without thorough all-around squads. Now if dude was out there putting up 300/100 on the reg and missing the playoffs or getting bounced early it would be "Yeah he puts up great numbers but he's not a winner though" :rudy:. He played like shyt for 3.5 quarters on Sunday and most definitely should thank that defense and Marshawn for still being in the game but he still made the plays that were needed to complete the comeback. Many a QB with a great defense and running game has been down 2 scores with 5 minutes left and lost. I am :mindblown: at how cats refuse to give this guy his props. nikkas stay talking about how black QBs get done dirty and couldn't wait to crown Vick for putting up numbers that make Russ look like Manning but now that we got a black QB in position to do some unprecedented shyt nikkas have turned into Rush Limbaugh.
I dont get it either. ben got crowned elite when he won the superbowl...with absolutely terrible performance and got carried by defense each time his steelers won. no one says anything. eli got carried by defense both wins. no one says anything. all people talked about is that theyre elite after those rings

defenses win championships, no shyt. its like people are retarded and sincerely believe qbs win games by themselves and this has been a revelation. defenses BEEN winning
 

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To be fair, brady was still in a game manager role at this point in his career.
I agree with this...at this point Brady is a game manager...

Got a really good defense
Got a really good running game
Got the best TE in football catching everything thrown at him...

Don't fumble...don't throw picks...and New England will win the lion share of games it plays

Doesn't excuse the fact that he spent years where Dion Branch and Rodger Gaffney was his best receivers and he had no run game...

shyt even the running back he was relying on just two years ago isn't even in the league now
 

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I dont get it either. ben got crowned elite when he won the superbowl...with absolutely terrible performance and got carried by defense each time his steelers won. no one says anything. eli got carried by defense both wins. no one says anything. all people talked about is that theyre elite after those rings

defenses win championships, no shyt. its like people are retarded and sincerely believe qbs win games by themselves and this has been a revelation. defenses BEEN winning

Who has ever called Eli Manning elite :russ:. Most Giants fans don't even call him elite :russ:

Same thing for Ben...every elite QB list I ever see...he not on it...when they talk about elite qb's on ESPN...his name never comes up...look at any QB list the last 7 or 8 years and I never see Ben in the top 5

Thread is getting out of hand now:russ:...you literally brought up two qb's who ALWAYS get left out of the elite discussion...:russ:
 

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Who has ever called Eli Manning elite :russ:. Most Giants fans don't even call him elite :russ:

Same thing for Ben...every elite QB list I ever see...he not on it...when they talk about elite qb's on ESPN...his name never comes up...look at any QB list the last 7 or 8 years and I never see Ben in the top 5

Thread is getting out of hand now:russ:...you literally brought up two qb's who ALWAYS get left out of the elite discussion...:russ:
:what: right after their teams won plenty of people talked about them as elite, on this board and in media as well
and no one calls russ elite either.

I dont see how russ is different from those guys. yet when people mention those guys and rings, you dont hear 'defense' and 'run game' mentioned very often. with russ its the first thing anyone else says

people talmin about his role is to not fukk up :mindblown: nikka thats what a qb is supposed to do. qbs job is to not pass for 12439128392 yards and be a hero all by himself. people are stuck in boxing mindset when evaluating a team of AT LEAST 22 starters
 
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