Honest question, if both parties are the same. Why do KKK and Neo Nazi's and other white supremacy groups despise democrats so much?

[Still Benefited]

Because Dems have a wider political spectrum than Republicans.


People who are actively engaged in the Republican party fall in line whereas Democrats have to cater to everyone from your neighbor who "doesn't hate black people but is afraid of them" to the white boys marching with hebrew israelites. It is much harder to have progress with such a wide variety of views, this is why the Republicans get shyt done because no one in that party is in disagreement that the poors and minorities should get screwed over.



This is where the "both sides" comes from. People from the outside view Republicans as evil but Democrats as incompetent.

Great assesment,and just to add,if i take my car to the mechanic to get new break pads put on he puts them on backwards "my bad. I take it back so he can fix it,this time he forgets to tighten the wheel back on,I call and cuss him out and he says "my bad,bring it back in got you". I decide to take it back,this time my break lines cut. After a while "incompetence" starts to look like the cousin of evil

 

[horizon]

I don't know who needs to hear this but liberal cacs are not your friends and before bots start blowing up my notifications, no, that is not a defense of the scum on the right

 

[Carl Tethers]

Great assesment,and just to add,if i take my car to the mechanic to get new break pads put on he puts them on backwards "my bad. I take it back so he can fix it,this time he forgets to tighten the wheel back on,I call and cuss him out and he says "my bad,bring it back in got you". I decide to take it back,this time my break lines cut. After a while "incompetence" starts to look like the cousin of evil

You're posting like a drunk. Make sure not to rape another woman tonight in this mood

 

[Tribal Outkast]

We know whet time it is.. People just be playing around out here though. I don’t even talk about politics anymore

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Because saying both sides are the same without offering a critique on how they are and explaining the alternative is just "Man I don't feel like voting. That shyt is too annoying and hasn't made a difference to my life personally" run through a "how can I still get to complain without voting?" filter.

Both sides are the same in the sense that both of them support a hierarchical power structure with white men making the most important decisions. Neither party will ever challenge the military industrial complex. Neither party will ever accept one of their members saying straight up that "we shouldn't be giving billions in tax revenue to Israel whilst we have a climate crisis, millions are dying easily preventable deaths due to lack of medical care, and Millenials and Gen Z are having less or ZERO children because they can't afford homes" Neither party will put up with a member saying "capitalism has reached the limit of what it can do as an economic system and is now actively harming people". Neither party will say "it's fukked up how slave owners were given reparations but the families and descendants were given redlining, share cropping, vagrancy laws and jim crow. We need to do what the Germans did after WWII and pay reparations"

In that sense, both are the same. When you critique them from a socialist or anarchist perspective, neither party cares very much about human life or what anyone making less than 100k a year thinks about anything. Lets put it this way: If the thirteenth amendment was challenged and slavery was back on the books, democrats would vote for it as "expanded unpaid internships with the opportunity of getting a referral to a paid position" whilst republicans would vote for it saying "it's a win for property and state rights that maintains respect for the original intent of the founders of this country".

Democrats give you the illusion of acceptance when the most you will get out of them is tolerance. Because to them, black people are people they don't like. Republicans can barely even mask their contempt for black people because in their minds, black people aren't people. For them the only acceptable ways black people can be of value are as fertilizer for plants or literal slaves. Democrats have fantasies of black people being tokens in work places but still ultimately under white authority, whereas republicans have fantasies of being able to kill, rape, and enslave black people the way their ancestors did. They worship the past when "america was great" because to them, america was great when NOBODY could stop them from brutalizing black people. They feel that they are owed the right to hurt us.

 

[Northern Son]

So I'm assuming in your mind it's better if the unapologetic white supremacist take power so we can have "racism out in the open" correct?

fukk no . What gave you that indication????

I just don’t like either party and feel it’s unfortunate that Americans - and by extension the world - have to choose between two very undesirable options. Their foreign policy is effectively identical (imperialist), but the Democrats are a much better (but still terrible) deal for non-white and non-elite American citizens.

They both heavily prioritize the business interests of rich connected white men first and foremost, but not to the same degree. There’s no limit for Republicans.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Ginsburg only hired 1 Black law clerk in 25 years while Kavanaugh and another republican hired several.

There's been 18 supreme court justices in the time since Ginsberg was appointed. Why did you only cherry-pick two justices and not give us the stats for all 18?

Do you seriously expect us to believe for a second there hasn't been more Black law clerks and other staffers working for Democrats than for Republicans?

 

[3rdWorld]

The GOP is a safe space and home to all the Neo nazis out there..they were openly protesting and rallying on behalf of DeSantis in Florida and he refused to condemn them.
It's crazy how people try to equate the parties.
It's down to Republicans being open racists and trying to justify it.

America is now in a place where you can argue and say anything.
Giuliani said so himself, Truth isnt Truth.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The parties have flip flopped/realigned several times and the only real difference between them in regards to the black plight is how useful we are to the other party in this game of political football.

The Republican Party freed the slaves…for political expediency.

The Republican Party was literally founded by anti-slavery activists, with an explicit anti-slavery platform, at a time in history where less than 20% of the voting population wanted to free the slaves. Lincoln was a darkhorse for the nomination because he was seen as too radical on slavery (he didn't take the lead until the 3rd ballot), and he won the presidency with only 39% of the vote because of a fluke that split the vote four ways. Lincoln is personally on record as being anti-slavery all the way back to the 1940s in his personal letters, but his views on slavery were not politically in the majority at all.

Claiming they only wanted to free the slaves for "political expediency" is nonsense, if they didn't want freedom for slaves then they wouldn't even have existed as a party.

LBJ signed civil rights legislation…for political expediency.

Democrats immediately lost power after he signed that shyt, dumbass.

This was the voting map before LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act.

This was the voting map after LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act.

Where the fukk is the "political expediency" in signing pro-Black legislation in a country where every single state has a White majority?

 

[boogers]

Trump is pro-LGBT, a sexual deviant, doesn't give a shyt about church, and not only married multiple immigrant wives but hired mad numbers of illegal immigrants at all his businesses. So then why is he such a hardcore conservative and the beloved idol of the entire movement?

 

[SunZoo]

During Lyndon B. Johnson’s first 20 years in Congress, "he opposed every civil rights measure that came up for a vote."

"He opposed every civil rights bill that came up for a vote, once calling the push for federal legislation a farce and a shame."

A southern strategist...but I guess all strategy went out the window this peckerwood just all of a sudden grew a conscience.

And despite 'losing the south', almost 100 years later his theory is holding up and republicans have to cheat to win elections on the strength of the black vote.

He reportedly referred to the Civil Rights Act of 1957 as the "n1gger bill" in more than one private phone conversation with Senate colleagues. And he reportedly said upon appointing African-American judge Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court, "Son, when I appoint a n1gger to the court, I want everyone to know he's a n1gger."

His motives were strategic and shown to be advantagous for the democratic party. He wasn't a hero, he was a sly fox like the rest of these peckerwoods that understood there was more money in exploting and tokenizing black folks than trying to exterminate them.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

That quote was made up in the 1990s by some random Newsmaxx reporter looking for clout 30 years after the fact, dumbass.

Why the fukk would LBJ care about the Black vote when they couldn't deliver him a single state? Name ONE Black state that LBJ flipped with the Black vote.

And he reportedly said upon appointing African-American judge Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court, "Son, when I appoint a n1gger to the court, I want everyone to know he's a n1gger."

His motives were strategic and shown to be advantagous for the democratic party.

You have the shyt exactly backwards, dumbass.

LBJ was famous for using racist language around racist senators in order to make them comfortable so they would pass pro-Civil Rights legislation.

He said that quote in defense of why he was appointing a pro-Black lawyer like Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court, rather than the more moderate options that the conservative dems wanted him to appoint. And there are multiple other examples of him doing the same thing. Personally, I assume LBJ was somewhat racist because he's a White Texan born in 1908. But despite his racism, he still actually tried to achieve equal rights (as have plenty of racist white people who still believe in fairness and justice), and it sure as hell wasn't politically beneficial for him.

Did you forget that LBJ didn't even run for reelection in 1968, knowing he'd get his ass kicked?

And despite 'losing the south', almost 100 years later his theory is holding up and republicans have to cheat to win elections on the strength of the black vote.

On the strength of the Black vote? The states with the largest Black % are Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, Maryland, Alabama, South Carolina, and North Carolina. How are Democrats doing there? The racist White vote is 3x larger than the Black vote, if the Dems still had the racist White vote like they did before the CRM, they'd be kicking ass electorally.

When LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, Democrats had won 6 of the last 8 presidential elections and held nearly 70% of the seats in both Senate and House.

After LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, Democrats immediately lost 5 of the next 6 presidential elections and their voting share in the Senate and House cratered. Democrats have lost at least one chamber for 30 of the last 44 years, and have not once broke 60% in either one during that time.

Thinking the Democrats are doing better politically since the CRA was signed is total nonsense. It KILLED their power compared to what they had before.

 

[MegaManX]

The parties have flip flopped/realigned several times and the only real difference between them in regards to the black plight is how useful we are to the other party in this game of political football.

The Republican Party freed the slaves…for political expediency. LBJ signed civil rights legislation…for political expediency.

Depending on what era, we are more useful to one group or the other in the question to maintain white supremacy and personal power. We are the football being passed around and played with and weaponized. The democrats have the ball for right now.

Both parties have the same general goals just different philosophy on how to get there.

smart dumb nikka response right here.

"depends on what era."

Like the question isn't specifically talking about today.

What's next. "Germany is in the middle of Europe right?"

"Well, depends on the era, you see, at one point back in 1422..."

nikka just answer the question.

 

[SunZoo]

And black people voted with the Republican "party of Emancipation" til the 60's.

It was never about the morality of slavery. If not EVER freeing slaves would have achieved his political goals he would have let them rot.

 

[FS4LFE]

Trump is pro-LGBT, a sexual deviant, doesn't give a shyt about church, and not only married multiple immigrant wives but hired mad numbers of illegal immigrants at all his businesses. So then why is he such a hardcore conservative and the beloved idol of the entire movement?

Because they’re all racist and support the same ideologies. It’s the same reason Trump
Supporters think he’s really the president. It’s a cult.