Honest question: who has a better argument than Jay Z for GOAT?

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Wally Russell said:
Reasonable Doubt is a revisionist classic . . but I will still stamp it

The Black Album and Blueprint are struggle classics when the standards were lowered. They are not even comparable to Tupac's classics by any standard, they would struggle to keep up with Tupac's second-tier albums. None of Jay Z's albums are better than R U Still Down or Until the End of Time

Jay Z does not have more classics than Tupac

It's okay t be a Jay Z fan but leave it at that. That's like being a fan of Usher, we can all admire his talent . . until you wanna compare him to Michael Jackson
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Farrinto said:
:mjlol:I don't take most of these anti-Jay dudes seriously. At most, he's top 5. At least, he's top 10. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
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Jay Z is undeniably top 10 and arguably top 5. I have him in my top 5
 
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Nobody... he has the best discography of any rapper and more classics than you can count ...his career never had a lull either and at 46 years old he can still come out w a new album and it be the most talked about /anticipated project when it drops...he's also the model that every rapper aspires to be ...does he have his weaknesses/Wack songs? Of course, but his achievements greatly outweigh his missteps
 
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WatergunTalk said:
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Act like You Must Love Me, Song Cry, This Can't Be Life, Where Have You Been, New Day, Regrets, Still Got Love For You, Momma Loves Me, Murder to Excellence, etc. don't exist brehs
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Tryin figure where your mail is, guesstimate the weight you sellin
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Baby came out stillborn, still I gotta move on
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WatergunTalk said:
Be unimpressed by songs widely regarded as hip-hop classics, brehs. Jay is the only legendary rapper who receives this kind of disrespect and slander, smh. And I'm a Nas stan, + I don't even totally agree with OP's post.
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The bolded is 1000 but only for online forums. I never hear this kind of talk in real life.
 
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Jay makes good music. He has a good flow, good ear for beats (sometimes) and for the most part is a dope lyricist. He is not the most creative, moving or groundbreaking artist ever, but he makes good music. I guess it all depends on your tastes. I just couldn't give the GOAT title to someone who has time and time again admitted that he values the money over the artistry.
 
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