honestly, the east coast & the west coast have never recovered after the loss of pac and biggie

[Wacky D]

I was sorry that they died, but that didn't stop my flow one bit.

people forget, ALOT of people weren't even fans of 2pac or biggie. there was so much going on. and then theres some that were fans of 1 but not the other. they weren't the rap superheroes that theyre made out to be post-death.

I think a lot of rappers get low-balled because of it too. its like dating a jawn whose previous boyfriend died when they were dating. you cant top that!!!! nevermind the fact that if he lived, she would've prolly broken up with him within a month or two anyway.

i agree, you right

i think even though dmx was poppin' and jay too, it just wasn't quite the same to me. don't get me wrong, i liked some of their music but it won't shyt compared to years before. least not to me

well that comes down to preference.

biggie was cool, but I was never a fan of him at any point. shoot, I remember a lot of people hated biggie on the east coast.

when it came to east coast rappers in the mid-90s, I was more into people like AZ, jay-z & nas.(I didn't care for IWW tho). I would put on the BCC/wutang types before bad boy too.

yeah, but that era of the east coast post biggie wasn't nearly as great as it was years before in the early 90's

an era is based off of more than 1 guy.

biggie wasn't even around in the early '90s.

what?!

biggie had stepped up even more than 1 could imagine lyrically as an artist on life after death (though ready to die is my favorite biggie album) and i felt like pac had gotten better with makaveli

a lot of rappers have stepped it up lyrically on later projects. very few of them gained anything from it.

LAD was void of criticism. people conveniently overlook all the filler on there, as well as the downright bad tracks. plus people forget about the climate in rap at the time. he would've been under heavy criticism for selling out with that album. hell, a lot of people viewed him as a sellout when "ready to die" was poppin. and that album was much better and way harder.

as for 2pac, he had old legs. I wouldn't be surprised if his next project was a str8 dud. and mind yall, I think pac was the goat.

rappers didn't linger around the top just off GP back then. the pre-monopoly days. we kept chit movin.

 

[B86]

How? Both coasts have artists that are better than BIG or Pac (flow wise, bars, music making ability, etc). When y'all stuck in the 90s ass nikkas gonna wake up? Nostalgia is a muthafukka, and I'm a 80s baby

 

[I love Latina women]

This debate can go on forever. Fact of the matter is, if you want to listen to new shyt, you've gotta develop a taste for it. There's gonna be good and bad music now just as there was good and bad music then.

No one said you had to like it all or even any of it, but there are nikkas out there rapping their ass off or making the best beats they can to keep the genre alive. Regardless of how you gage its quality, I think you should appreciate their efforts.

yeah, i hear you

i guess to me and with time and age and nostalgia it just ain't the same no more

 

[I love Latina women]

I was sorry that they died, but that didn't stop my flow one bit.

people forget, ALOT of people weren't even fans of 2pac or biggie. there was so much going on. and then theres some that were fans of 1 but not the other. they weren't the rap superheroes that theyre made out to be post-death.

I think a lot of rappers get low-balled because of it too. its like dating a jawn whose previous boyfriend died when they were dating. you cant top that!!!! nevermind the fact that if he lived, she would've prolly broken up with him within a month or two anyway.






well that comes down to preference.

biggie was cool, but I was never a fan of him at any point.

when it came to east coast rappers in the mid-90s, I was more into people like AZ, jay-z & nas.(I didn't care for IWW tho).






an era is based off of more than 1 guy.

biggie wasn't even around in the early '90s.





a lot of rappers have stepped it up lyrically on later projects. very few of them gained anything from it.

LAD was void of criticism. people conveniently overlook all the filler on there, as well as the downright bad tracks. plus people forget about the climate in rap at the time. he would've been under heavy criticism for selling out with that album. hell, a lot of people viewed him as a sellout when "ready to die" was poppin. and that album was much better and way harder.

as for 2pac, he had old legs. I wouldn't be surprised if his next project was a str8 dud. and mind yall, I think pac was the goat.

rappers didn't linger around the top just off GP back then. the pre-monopoly days. we kept chit movin.

i respect your opinion and i hear you and i remember back in the day when some heads won't fukkin' with life after death because it won't ready to die

but that bein' said, the early 90's to 97' was the pinnacle of hip hop for me

 

[the cac mamba]

truth be told, pac & big were both on the verge of being

i could see pac because he put out so much shyt but how was big?

that victory verse? i would at LEAST give him another huge album before holmes status

then again its not like i remember those days so

 

[Palm Tree's & Blunts]

On a mainstream level, yeah the west fell off.

The game brought the west back honestly with the documentary. You could throw in 2001 as well..

EDIT: Also love how people just think of LA when it comes to the West Coast. The Bay area had a lot of dope shyt.

 

[2stainz]

I dont know if it was losing those artists as much as it was losing the sound. Biggie repped the sample-heavy playa sounds of Puff and the Hitmen...and Pac carried the torch after the Gfunk era of Dre and Snoop.

Basically those coasts lost their ambassadors and there was no one big enough to step in*




(*until DMX on the east, Chronic 2001 on the West)

 

[ISO]

The East was fine. DMX and Ruff Ryders movement, Nas, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, LOX, Cam'ron and the Diplomats, Mase, Ja Rule, N.O.R.E., Big Pun, Fabolous, Fat Joe, GFK, Mos Def, Philly movement with Beans and State Prop and Cassidy, etc.

Life After Death is one of the best double albums ever but it had wack tracks and undeniable filler. Biggie was gonna catch shyt for "selling out" just like Nas did for It Was Written had he lived.

By '96 the West Coast was already kinda anyway and Pac already had a ton of music out I feel like he had already peaked with Me Against The World.

B.I.G. was walking on a cane and had health issues with his weight and what not no telling what could have happened had he lived.

They was bound to fall off and they wouldn't be able to stop a changing rap climate.

 

[10:31]

Dre
Cube
Snoop
Kendrick
Game
E 40
Too $hort
DPG ( Daz & Young Gotti)
Nipsey Husle
Dom
Schoolboy Q


The west has been fine.. Not knocking the east but the west has been doing just fine since Pac passed away

 

[Wacky D]

east coast fell off because the guys at the top circa 2004, refused to pass the torch.

we were stuck with guys like jay-z, nas & 50 cent putting out terrible music thru the rest of the decade while the guys that were really poppin were relegated to being semi-mainstream at best, while mainly doing the mixtape & independent thing.

meanwhile, most of those south rappers blowing up since 2003 are agents man. that dumb-dumb rap was pushed to the forefront for a reason.
the golden era of the south will always be 1996-2000. classic music & way more records & tickets sold during that period than the years that they tell us that the south supposedly took over. F*CK THAT.

i could see pac because he put out so much shyt but how was big?

that victory verse? i would at LEAST give him another huge album before holmes status

then again its not like i remember those days so

biggie verse on victory is overrated. he struggled with that beat, and I cant say that he spit anything on there that made me wish I wrote it.

but yea, it would be interesting to see how he bounced back from getting chitted on for LAD & the shiny suits. cuz I know biggie wanted to just rap and legitimately wanted to spit the illest chit. but puff & mase were about to make a ton of money with their albums regardless and I don't know how much biggie would've had left in the tank anyway. especially if pac was still alive to chit on what they were doing over there, while still riding off of AEOM and the makaveli mixtape.

plus, jay wouldn't have dikkrode bad boy on volume 1. he would've just stayed in prime form.

jay & dmx would've been at the top of the east coast by '98, regardless of biggie. the same way they passed up nas.