Hot Take: New Cavs Unit >>> Retaining Kyrie

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Reason why LeBron doesn’t have 4 Rings? = Kyrie Got hurt in 2015
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Reason why LeBron got 3 Rings and Came Back from a 3-1 Deficit = Kyrie Irving amazing Performance.

Don’t Forget Game 5 he scored 41 Points like LeBron

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He Outplayed League MVP Steph Curry
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And let’s not Forget that he took the shot LeBron was afraid to take in Game 7.
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None of them “New Guys” scoring 41 and none of them will have the testicular fortitude to take that winning shot.

True. That 15 points on any given night isn't going to cut it in the finals against GS. Cleveland will still run through the East but that's was a given. I never though I see people gassed up George Hill, but it's being done.
 

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Who did he fail with, he won a chip wit Kyrie and crew, he won a chip wit d Wade and crew, IT and crew lasted less that half a season, Clarkson has always been an offensive producer in LA, Hood the same in Utah. Nance is being nance along with hill....they are just being naturally who they are....the pieces just fit. If they would have beat OKC by thirty I’d actually agree with you cuz that type of hot shooting has to come to an end ....but this win tonight was a hard fought realistic win....nothing felt abnormal about it.


Dawg,...
None of those acquisitions match up on paper under duress to any west coast teams firepower in a final round at this current moment.
Especially the warriors.

Like I said this group is playing up and in the week when teams who have normally played okay.
or had duress try to get wins which is right before all star break.

Maybe the media are downplaying that particular factor.
Yet, i know the NBA and its trends during this time of year as well.
Like I said, when those regular broken millenium falcon landing gear parts are under duress in a final round.
they will fail like any group who did not feature superstars with bron in the finals. As bron will not and can not galvanize a group to win the finals.
without pedigreed actualized superstar parts.
If you believe that to be different you already said in your post you know I am right. As all through your post you cited actualized pedigreed superstar parts that were integral to bron's success in the final round.



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Kyries skill set is tailor made for the playoffs when teams have you scouted and are locked in. He can still get buckets amd singlehandedly win a game. This team is a better fit but sometimes you need that singular talent


These dudes trying to down play actualized pedigree in favor of mix and match bust based parts.

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Trade away the highest pedigreed backcourt in NBA history, breh.
 

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I miss Kyrie still I don’t care how good this team is:mjcry:

Sad really. Everyone talks about how Bron was Cleveland’s own but so was Kyrie actually. Was their pick...represented hope after Bron left them in their dark era. He grew up and balled, performed at the biggest stage, put on all time legendary performances..while simultaneously erasing the very meaning of what “the shot” meant in Cleveland.

And they trade him away like he was Sasha Pavlovich or something. Still can’t believe they traded the 2nd greatest player in their history because of a little emotional moment.
 

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Kyries skill set is tailor made for the playoffs when teams have you scouted and are locked in. He can still get buckets amd singlehandedly win a game. This team is a better fit but sometimes you need that singular talent

100% right. Great players win championships. Good players get marginalized at the highest level, you need a great player who can get you through.

Which is what made Kyrie so awesome. Add to the fact that he wasn’t afraid of the stage and could create a shot from anywhere and you’d realize that even combined those players can’t match Kyries impact at the highest levels.
 

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i wouldn't say they're better but the bench is better & Kyrie could never run the team without Bron on the court, they ALWAYS lost leads...:yeshrug:


And let’s not Forget that he took the shot LeBron was afraid to take in Game 7.
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None of them “New Guys” scoring 41 and none of them will have the testicular fortitude to take that winning shot.
Bron wasn't scared to take that shot, Kyrie just had a better matchup with JR screening Klay which left Steph to guard him... Iggy & Draymond are way better defenders then Steph of course... :stopitslime:
 

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PG is an iso player too....if this is who Clarkson is going to be and stay I’ll take this over Bledsoe any day.

Pg is not an ISO player never has been.

He's a two way 6'9 pnr dude with ELITE shooting touch, offball ability & ball control . But he's never been a dependable ISO player in the NBA. He was very inconsistent as the 1 option for the pacers leading to not very efficient seasons. However his skillset is otherwise very much superstar.

He's the role player of superstars (for lack of a better term)
 

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Pg is not an ISO player never has been.

He's a two way 6'9 pnr dude with ELITE shooting touch, offball ability & ball control . But he's never been a dependable ISO player in the NBA. He was very inconsistent as the 1 option for the pacers leading to not very efficient seasons. However his skillset is otherwise very much superstar.

He's the role player of superstars (for lack of a better term)
Everyone in the nba is a pnr player today....but pg wit OKC is typically being set a screen for to get the switch and going iso on the vulnerable defender, that’s as iso as it gets. He can but is not just a pass receiving spot up shooter, he can go in the post or shoot over smaller guards or get to the lane 1 on 1 creating his own shot.
 

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I love Kyrie.... Was my favorite Cav.

But I'm loving what im seeing so far .Can't wait until Kevin Love gets healthly and joins the gang. The bench is definitely better than its ever been. We have to wait and see. But if you would have told me we could get Clarkson, Hood, Hill and Nance for Kyrie and Frye knowing Kyrie didnt want to be here. I would have taken it
 
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