Hot Take: New Cavs Unit >>> Retaining Kyrie

[Art Barr]

Reminds me of the old cavs lebron teams that were great in the regular season tbh. He needs that other dude who can take over. Kevin love is a better number 2 than he ever had back then but I think he needs that wing star next to him to win it all. Like these dudes are nice but these nikkas aint stars. You cant count on them to show up in the playoffs. These dudes are about to go Playoff Mo Williams and its gonna be back to the "Bron needs more help!!!" narrative

This.

Yet this contingent of homer dookie eating stans not recognizing.



Art Barr

 

[Mad Good Dro]

Reminds me of the old cavs lebron teams that were great in the regular season tbh. He needs that other dude who can take over. Kevin love is a better number 2 than he ever had back then but I think he needs that wing star next to him to win it all. Like these dudes are nice but these nikkas aint stars. You cant count on them to show up in the playoffs. These dudes are about to go Playoff Mo Williams and its gonna be back to the "Bron needs more help!!!" narrative

So which one is it?

 

[daboywonder2002]

Im gonna say no because Bron is 33 and has tons of mileage. you're still depending on him to do EVERYTHING. making plays for himself and teammates. Kyrie at least took some of the pressure off Bron. Especially in clutch situations.

 

[#1 pick]

Kevin Love is good too

 

[ade]

The only reason Kyrie doesn't get more love, is because he is clearly not obsessed with numbers. He goes out and plays the game.

If he like Lebron, trying to gobble up every stat he could, his numbers would look different. First of all, he'd be averaging a heck of a lot more. Furthermore, dude actually has VERY good passing skills. He just doesn't put much emphasis on his number, and I do think that will hurt his legacy. He got all the tools to be a highly productive offensive player, but he lacks the motor to be that guy night in and night out.

Very true. Dude a very patient player rarely forces. Sometimes he does but he is really good at getting his offense in the flow of game. Dame Lillard has better career scoring numbers than Kyrie but most would say that Kyrie is the better scorer. Just based on his sheer efficiency alone.

Eh he good.
Wouldn’t say special

Nah. He's special

 

[MicIsGod]

guwoprock

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guwoprock

kyrie literally help them come back from 3-1 deficit to beat a 73 win team and hit the game winning shot in game 7.

Yup. Saw this similar sentiment being mildly tossed around on FS1 on the various shows. shyt is hard to even entertain with a debate.

 

[Juven]

guwoprock

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guwoprock

kyrie literally help them come back from 3-1 deficit to beat a 73 win team and hit the game winning shot in game 7.

the refs helped with that come back

 

[MicIsGod]

Instead of a single one of the 3 scoring 41, they each can pitch in 10-15 on any given night. The bench improved dramatically and Bron finally has his PG that can play defense and doesn't ballhog the fukk outta the ball.

...and Bron made the free throw to push the lead to 3 and Love's D on Curry was just as important

Severely understimating the factor of having star power on your team and how much that means to winning. It’s a reason Lebron only won titles with 2 other stars. A few different guys who can POSSIBLY give you 20 on a good night isn’t giving you with Kyrie did in the Finals against one of the greatest teams ever. He CLEARLY outplayed the 2 time reigning MVP I mean damn
Disrespectful what y’all be doing to Kyrie just because he played with Lebron

 

[Gravity]

they went to 2 finals with kyrie and
kyrie hit the biggest shot in cleveland cavs history

you're fukkin disgusting

So this means he’s irreplaceable?

 

[I AM WARHOL]

So which one is it?

I mean he shouldn't need more help but his track record shows unless shyt aint gift wrapped on a silver platter, he's catching an L.
This is a great opportunity for him to show he doesn't need another superstar wing next to him to win

 

[Young Fab]

Reminds me of the old cavs lebron teams that were great in the regular season tbh. He needs that other dude who can take over. Kevin love is a better number 2 than he ever had back then but I think he needs that wing star next to him to win it all. Like these dudes are nice but these nikkas aint stars. You cant count on them to show up in the playoffs. These dudes are about to go Playoff Mo Williams and its gonna be back to the "Bron needs more help!!!" narrative

Ummm if you just admitted yourself the 2nd best player on the team no-showed how on Earth is that a "Bron needs more help narrative"?......... that's a the help he has needs to fukkin show up narrative.
Wtf type of brain power are you nikkas workin wit on here?

 

[Young Fab]

Kyrie, scoring average not being present in that final round at that time.
means a block just occurred when bron was getting routinely blown out if kyrie was not there.
I could see if bron galvanized kyrie and gave him some large realm of up tick in skill and play. When kyrie did not get that from bron. Kyrie came to the dance off his pops second gen genetics and hot rod Strickland being his godfather level of skill and execution. So trying to play this whole lebron is responsible for ramping kyrie is a lie. Kyrie was already actualized in his space and came back three times from knee injury and was better each time. So, bron can not claim to have ramped kyrie. Kyrie stands as equals with lebron, in Cleveland after bron traded away Wiggins. Plus, kyrie performed in the wake of injury. Then came back to hit the shot, afterwards the next opportunity.
Plus kyrie, has more pedigree in actual bball IQ knowledge and execution of that knowledge.
Simply because he was an injured fly on the wall.
Who went unaffected in ferocity when injured at duke.
So, yeah the block was there. Yet bron created the narrative for golden state to even exist. When bron traded away the most pedigreed backcourt in NBA history from being selfish. Plus admitting from his actions he is incapable of being a true leader and galvanizing a group with similar matching pedigree to his in more than one player on roster.


So bron created why the block had to take place. That, we can not give it as much credence, as kyrie and the shot.

Art Barr

So basically you give Kyrie all the credit and LeBron none but nikkas like you get upset if nikkas give LeBron all the credit and Kyrie none................ yea that makes sense.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Reminds me of the old cavs lebron teams that were great in the regular season tbh. He needs that other dude who can take over. Kevin love is a better number 2 than he ever had back then but I think he needs that wing star next to him to win it all. Like these dudes are nice but these nikkas aint stars. You cant count on them to show up in the playoffs. These dudes are about to go Playoff Mo Williams and its gonna be back to the "Bron needs more help!!!" narrative

Cosign the narrative that Bron needs more help as legit while still attempting to delegitimize it in the same breath, brehs

Be a Warrior stan, brehs

 

[Art Barr]

So basically you give Kyrie all the credit and LeBron none but nikkas like you get upset if nikkas give LeBron all the credit and Kyrie none................ yea that makes sense.

Kyrie is the determining factor in bron winning for the land.
before Gs changed the superstar narrative with Durant.
We know so because when kyrie was injured. The cavs were close to possibly securing the opening finals encounter with Gs before kyrie was injured.

So you can continue to ignore fact all you want. Yet bron is where he is because he is selfish. Knows he is not a true leader.
as he can not reign in or galvanize a unit with similar pedigreed parts over time. Which is why he jettisoned Wiggins and later kyrie bolted.
Call me when lebron wins a title without a highly drafted and actualized on their own part superstar. Call me when bron ramp his Scottie. When Scottie was close to brad sellers 2.o.

It will never happen.

Bron won't help ramp a prospectively great pedigreed player.
till his own son is in the league flanking him.


Art Barr

 

[staticshock]

Very true. Dude a very patient player rarely forces. Sometimes he does but he is really good at getting his offense in the flow of game. Dame Lillard has better career scoring numbers than Kyrie but most would say that Kyrie is the better scorer. Just based on his sheer efficiency alone.





Nah. He's special

The only “special” players in today’s game is Bron and Gianns. Only “special” player from last generation was Kobe.

Kyrie is just really good