House GOP reveals AHCA: Update - Repeal of ACA IS BACK ON

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The GOP is finding out the hard way that it's easier to just bytch and moan from the sidelines and scream "we can do it better!" rather than actually coming up with a credible plan.

All they can do is keep trying to convince their constituents to vote against their own interests by instilling a fear of boogeyman, welfare queens, and Muslims.
 

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The Dems are too stupid to realize the GOP bill is a ruse



It's supposed to fail. The Rs don't want to own healthcare until they get 60 seats

Interesting. I haven't heard that argument but what's the end goal of letting it fail? They're waiting to get 60 seats so they can pass a version that's more to their liking?

I'm not doubting that idea, I just have trouble believing that the GOP leaders have that much foresight.
 

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Interesting. I haven't heard that argument but what's the end goal of letting it fail? They're waiting to get 60 seats so they can pass a version that's more to their liking?

I'm not doubting that idea, I just have trouble believing that the GOP leaders have that much foresight.

I think they do have the foresight

Their domination of state houses and taking Congress back in a short amount of time required it
 

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I'll merge this later. Just thought it was too ridiculous to hide in the thread

Republican Congressman Who Scolded Obamacare Recipients for Buying iPhones Exposed as Total Hypocrite

According to the Federal Election Commission, Chaffetz’s political action committee (PAC) uses donors’ money to pay for its phone bills. The 2014 document, which Intercept reporter Lee Fang shared on Twitter, shows that Chaffetz’s “rich donors” paid multiple Verizon Wireless bills between May and July of 2014, totaling nearly $1,000. Chaffetz’s campaign donations came from corporations, including Pfizer, Inc. and Goldman Sachs.



Fang also noted that Chaffetz spent $738 in campaign dollars at the Apple Store, according to a Friends of Jason Chaffetz PAC receipts and disbursements report published by the Federal Election Commission.

The monthly installments to pay off a new phone are significantly lower than the average monthly premium for an individual health care plan, and unlike Chaffetz, most Americans don’t have corporate campaign dollars paying their phone bills.

Republican Congressman Who Scolded Obamacare Recipients for Buying iPhones Exposed as Total Hypocrite

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Examining The House Republican ACA Repeal And Replace Legislation

On March 6, 2017, the House Republican leadership introduced Affordable Care Act repeal and replacement budget reconciliation bills in the Ways and Means (W&M) (summary) and Energy and Commerce (E&C) (summary) committees. The bills, collectively titled the American Health Care Act, are the committees’ responses to the instructions they received in the Budget Resolution passed by both houses of Congress in mid-January to prepare budget reconciliation legislation to repeal the ACA.

The committees will begin markup of the bills on March 8, 2017. (E&C will also on that day consider a resolution offered by a group of Democratic House members that would request President Trump to direct Health and Human Service Secretary Price to transmit to the House documents relating to the administration’s plans to repeal and replace the ACA. If the bills are passed by the committees they will be combined by the House Budget Committee and sent to the House Rules Committee, and then to the full House for a vote. The Congressional Budget Office has not released cost estimates of the legislation and it appears that committee markups will proceed without out CBO reports.

In considering the Affordable Care Act in 2009 and 2010, the House held 79 hearings over the course of a year, heard from 181 witnesses and accepted 121 amendments. The current House leadership hopes to get the repeal and replacement legislation through the House in three weeks. The Senate adopted the Affordable Care Act only after approximately 100 hearings, roundtables, walkthroughs and other meetings, and after 25 consecutive days in continuous session debating the bill. It is expected that the current House bill will go directly to the floor of the Senate for a vote. Whatever passes the Senate will return for a conference with the House, if it varies from the House bill, and then go to the President for his signature.

Repealing Revenue Provisions
The W&M bill repeals a host of ACA tax provisions including:

  • The $500,000 limit on business expense deductibility for compensation to insurance executives;
  • The tanning tax;
  • The branded prescription drug tax;
  • The health insurance tax;
  • The Medicare tax imposed on unearned income on taxpayers earning more than $200,000 ($250,000 for joint filers);
  • The “Cadillac” plan tax (which reappears in 2025, apparently to satisfy Senate prohibitions on reconciliation provisions that increase out-year deficits);
  • The prohibition against paying for over-the-counter medications with tax subsidized funds from health savings accounts (HSAs), Archer MSAs, or flexible spending or health reimbursement arrangements;
  • The ACA’s increase in the penalty for the use of HSA and Archer MSA funds for non-medical purposes (reducing the penalty from 20 to 10 percent for HSAs and 20 to 15 percent for MSAs);
  • The $2500 limit on contributions to flexible spending accounts;
  • The medical device excise tax;
  • The requirement that employers reduce their deduction for expenses allowable for retiree drug costs without reducing the deduction by the amount of retiree drug subsidy;
  • The increase in the level of medical expenses that must be incurred to claim a tax deduction, reducing the level back from 10 percent to 7.5 percent;
  • The repeal of the ACA’s Medicare .9 percent tax surcharge on taxpayers with incomes exceeding $200,000 ($250,000 for joint filers).
These taxes are repealed as of the end of 2017. The Joint Committee on Taxation estimates that the repealed taxes will cost $593.7 billion over ten years.It is hard to see in the absence of a CBO report how the repeal bill makes up for this lost revenue, other than by cutting Medicaid spending.

The New Tax Credits

The tax credit is not be adjusted for geographic differences in health care costs, and the 2 to 1 age adjustment would fall far short of making up for the 5 to 1 ratio allowed under for age rating. Younger and wealthier individuals in low cost areas of the country would be better off than under the ACA, but older and poorer individuals and individuals in higher cost areas would be worse off. An analysis of the changes by David Cutler, John Bertko, Topher Spiro, and Emily Gee projects that the combined repeal of the cost sharing reductions and the changes in the premium tax credits would increase costs for the average marketplace enrollee by $2,409 for 2020, with individuals aged 55 to 64 experiencing a $6,971 increase and costs for individuals below 250 percent of poverty increasing by $4,061. The Kaiser Family Foundation website offers an interactive map illustrating who wins and who loses.

Examining The House Republican ACA Repeal And Replace Legislation
 

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Eliminating Prevention Fund, Funding Community Health Centers, And Defunding Planned Parenthood
The E&C bill also contains a number of provisions that are not Medicaid related. First it repeals the ACA’s prevention and public health fund after 2018 and rescinds all remaining unobligated funds as of that date. It appropriates an additional $422 million for community health centers for 2017. It prohibits federal funding for Planned Parenthood for one year beginning with the enactment of the law.

Without a comparable replacement, or appropriation of additional funds, at least $3 billion will be cut from state and local public health departments alone over the next five years through funds allocated by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). An additional $2 billion in federal resources would be lost to a number of other prevention-oriented activities across the entire public health enterprise. This $5 billion is essential to core public health programs that keep Americans healthy and safe every day and makes up 12 percent of CDC’s annual budget, supporting disease tracking, access to immunizations for those most in need, and preventing and addressing lead poisoning, among other priorities.

To highlight what this means to communities, let’s consider a few examples of how repealing the ACA would lead to deep cuts in public health initiatives at the state and local level.

  • According to an analysis by the Trust for America’s Health, the state of North Carolina, home to public health champion Senator Richard Burr (R-NC), would lose more than $85 million in grants from the CDC over the next five years if the fund were repealed. Approximately five million dollars each year in funding to prevent diabetes, heart disease, and stroke prevention—leading causes of death and health care costs—would be gone.
  • The state of Texas, home to four BCHC member cities, would lose more than $147 million in grants from the CDC over the next five years. This loss could include $4 million a year in vaccine funding that ensures access to necessary immunizations for those most vulnerable.
  • Finally, the state of California, home to five of BCHC member cities, would lose more than $300 million in grants from CDC over the next five years. More than $7 million in vaccine funding and approximately $13 million in chronic disease funding would be at stake.
Eliminating the fund would directly affect everyday Americans and their families in a number of ways:

  • Perhaps the most damage would be done to one of the nation’s leading vaccine programs, which would be nearly dismantled, shrinking by more than 50 percent, according to an analysis by the National Association of County and City Health Officials. According to the CDC, the 317 Immunization Program plays a critical role in achieving national immunization coverage targets and reductions in disease. Dollars from this program support vaccinations across the life course, from newborns to the elderly. Every parent knows how essential vaccines are to protecting kids and their grandparents, allowing them to take part in daily life with fewer worries of contracting vaccine-preventable diseases. From an economic point of view, immunizations continue to be one of the most cost-effective public health interventions. Over the past 20 years, childhood immunizations have prevented 322 million illnesses, 732,000 deaths, and nearly $1.4 trillion in societal costs.
  • Another key capability that would suffer greatly is our scientists’ ability to identify and track disease outbreaks, as well as respond. Public health threats like Zika and foodborne illnesses like salmonella can only be addressed if experts have the resources they need to identify where the threats begin, where they will travel next, and how to stop them in their tracks. About one third of disease tracking is supported by the fund and its loss would severely hamper efforts to combat and contain these threats.
  • Finally, our ability to prevent and identify lead poisoning in our children, a function largely financed by the fund, would be deeply cut. America witnessed the damaging toll that lead can take in the brains and bodies of our kids when it saw the tragedy unfold last year in Flint, Michigan. Each dollar invested in lead poisoning prevention yields in a return on investment of $17–$221 or a net savings of $181–269 billion. Even without considering the human cost, this investment makes good fiscal sense.
ACA Repeal Would Mean Massive Cuts To Public Health, Leaving Cities And States At Risk
 

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Health And Work Status Of Medicaid Expansion Adults
Data from the 2015 National Health Interview Survey illustrate that most healthy Medicaid expansion beneficiaries are working or pursuing economic opportunities. Half (48 percent) of adults covered by the Medicaid expansion are permanently disabled, have serious physical or mental limitations—-caused by conditions like cancer, stroke, heart disease, cognitive or mental health disorders, arthritis, pregnancy, or diabetes—-or are in fair or poor health. Low-wage jobs are often physically demanding, precluding those with limitations from employment. Of the other half, who might be viewed as “able-bodied,” 62 percent are already working or in school and 12 percent are looking for work; only 25 percent are not currently working or in school. (More information about the analyses is at the end of this brief.)

Only 13 percent of adults covered by Medicaid’s expansion are able-bodied and not working, in school, or seeking work. Of that small group, three-quarters report they are not working in order to care for family members and the rest report other reasons, like being laid off. A much higher share of overall American adults are unemployed or not in the labor force (28 percent), according to 2015 Census data. Medicaid expansion enrollees are more likely to be working or looking for work than the general public, unless they are burdened by ill health or the needs of their families. Moreover, Medicaid expansions could make it easier for beneficiaries to find work, as reported in Ohio.

Insurance Availability In Low-Wage Jobs
Low-wage workers are often not offered health insurance at work or are offered plans that are too expensive or too skimpy. Most of the low-wage jobs that Medicaid recipients could obtain do not provide health insurance. Only 28 percent of employees of private firms with low average wages (e.g., retail, food service, agriculture) get health insurance through their jobs. Almost half of employees (42 percent) of these firms are not even eligible for job-based health insurance, according to the 2014 Medical Expenditure Panel Survey.

Myths About The Medicaid Expansion And The ‘Able-Bodied’
 

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I'm Canadian so trust and believe I'm aware of the stupidity of the American people.

Is there an actual rational, logical argument as to why you guys oppose Universal Healthcare? Hell, even @Pink_Freud supports it.
 

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I'm Canadian so trust and believe I'm aware of the stupidity of the American people.

Is there an actual rational, logical argument as to why you guys oppose Universal Healthcare? Hell, even @Pink_Freud supports it.

No, there has never been one given. The crux of this question basically. Is healthcare a right or a privilege. From there, you see people take sides with the secondary stuff.
 

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Interesting. I haven't heard that argument but what's the end goal of letting it fail? They're waiting to get 60 seats so they can pass a version that's more to their liking?

I'm not doubting that idea, I just have trouble believing that the GOP leaders have that much foresight.

They don't and no insider report supports this notion. @FAH1223 is busy falling for the after-the-fact okie-doke and spin. :russell:


And if it's all a ruse, why is Trump acting so desperate for it to pass and warning of "electoral bloodbaths" if it fails? :comeon:
 

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It all comes down to the intelligence of the American people.

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So yeah, it could work.

After seeing those GOP Town Halls,Im at 10% that his plan will Fail:ehh:


Can't wait for this rally. Cacs coming out to get their shyt taken away :pachaha:


I wonder what Stadiums hes going to hit,he should do Bigly at say Jerrys World:lolbron:
 

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I'm Canadian so trust and believe I'm aware of the stupidity of the American people.

Is there an actual rational, logical argument as to why you guys oppose Universal Healthcare? Hell, even @Pink_Freud supports it.
:yeshrug:

UHC is the only thing that makes sense for everyone. Especially when it actually costs less than obamacare.
 
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