House GOP reveals AHCA: Update - Repeal of ACA IS BACK ON
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Bleed The Freak
Superstar
I say let it occur and sit back and let the fallout happen. A tax credit for 4k on insurance when the average policy costs 20k ain't shyt.
It's much much harder to take away a program then it is to get people on it. Once those seniors get that 5x higher premium they will revolt something awful. Once those hillbillies get kicked off medicaid expansion and their insurance is gone, once those hospitals and pharmacies get stiffed or lose $$$....hey it is what it is. Let them eat cake IDGAF. They voted for it. I hope they lose their food stamps and subsidized housing too....seriously fukk em.
I wish I could feel bad but I won't. I hate human suffering and I'm an independent but people got exactly what they asked for. With all due respect fukk em. Folks in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Iowa, Indiana, Louisiana, when you get kicked off or see your prices skyrocket ....don't be crying and shyt asking how this happened. Pull yourself by your bootstraps......
It's much much harder to take away a program then it is to get people on it. Once those seniors get that 5x higher premium they will revolt something awful. Once those hillbillies get kicked off medicaid expansion and their insurance is gone, once those hospitals and pharmacies get stiffed or lose $$$....hey it is what it is. Let them eat cake IDGAF. They voted for it. I hope they lose their food stamps and subsidized housing too....seriously fukk em.
I wish I could feel bad but I won't. I hate human suffering and I'm an independent but people got exactly what they asked for. With all due respect fukk em. Folks in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Iowa, Indiana, Louisiana, when you get kicked off or see your prices skyrocket ....don't be crying and shyt asking how this happened. Pull yourself by your bootstraps......
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A review of profit results for the six health insurers in the Standard & Poor’s 500 stock index since the start of 2014 — the year the Affordable Care Act rule went into effect that mandated that people who can afford coverage must get it or pay a fine — shows mixed results. The combined net income of Aetna, Anthem, Centene, Cigna, Humana and UnitedHealth grew at an annual compounded rate of 4.7% in the three years ended Dec. 31, 2016, data from S&P Global Market Intelligence show. Overall, the 60 health-care stocks in the S&P 500 grew at an annualized rate of more than 16%.
The results are heavily skewed by Centene, the biggest Medcaid-focused insurer, with roughly 1 million insured through the program, which provides medical benefits for low-income people. During that same three-year period, Centene's net income jumped at an annualized rate of 50.5%, compared to a nearly 21% drop in net income for Humana. By that measure, Cigna's profit rose 8.1%, UnitedHealth's rose 7.6% and Aetna's grew nearly 6%. Centene also benefited from last year’s nearly $7 billion merger with rival HealthNet, which more than doubled the number of people the combined company covers.
How might insurers' health fare under GOP plan?
Trump Won Big In House Conservatives' Districts — Will They Defy Him On Health Care?
Trump carried the districts of the House Freedom Caucus members by an average margin of about 26 points. He won more than 20 of these districts by 20 points or more and carried 27 of them by double digits.
Yet the lawmakers almost all won their races comfortably, too — allowing them to claim a mandate from constituents just as Trump has. Lawmakers could even argue they have more purity on the issue, given Trump's fluctuations on enumerating exactly what he wants in a health care bill and lack of specifics during the campaign.
The GOP can still pass the American Health Care Act even if it loses as many as 20 votes — or more, if any Democrats change their minds.
Looking at it another way, Trump needs to woo only 10 of these conservative members over to his side — but that also assumes other GOP centrists stay on board too. Ultimately, as the White House said on Wednesday, the president is prepared to do everything he needs to do to get there.
Trump Won Big In House Conservatives' Districts — Will They Defy Him On Health Care?
Trump carried the districts of the House Freedom Caucus members by an average margin of about 26 points. He won more than 20 of these districts by 20 points or more and carried 27 of them by double digits.
Yet the lawmakers almost all won their races comfortably, too — allowing them to claim a mandate from constituents just as Trump has. Lawmakers could even argue they have more purity on the issue, given Trump's fluctuations on enumerating exactly what he wants in a health care bill and lack of specifics during the campaign.
The GOP can still pass the American Health Care Act even if it loses as many as 20 votes — or more, if any Democrats change their minds.
Looking at it another way, Trump needs to woo only 10 of these conservative members over to his side — but that also assumes other GOP centrists stay on board too. Ultimately, as the White House said on Wednesday, the president is prepared to do everything he needs to do to get there.
Trump Won Big In House Conservatives' Districts — Will They Defy Him On Health Care?
yall watching this Paul Ryan news conference, he selling me on this health plan
Foxmulder
Superstar
The whole "they voted for it so fukk em" point of view would sound good if the only people being affected were the ones who voted for this clown.
But people who didn't vote for this foolishness are also being dragged down. I can't rock with that.
But people who didn't vote for this foolishness are also being dragged down. I can't rock with that.
Ms. Elaine
Spoiled Brat
No offense but you've proven to be a bit of an airhead and unfortunately most Americans are airheads.
It really boils down to racism. This isn't hyperbole. There are several tropes about how the illegals, welfare leeches, and lazy people abuse systems. These will always appear at one point during a discussion on opposition to this idea. They're all euphemisms for what white people think of brown and black people.
Then you just need to also remember that this "remove the government from xyz" rhetoric is inconsistent with stuff whites and the republican base like. How can you say that universal healthcare is some sort of taboo while at the same time advocating medicare?
What about what he said really appealed to you? Just curious.
I watched this documentary again yesterday since its timely once again. When you watch this, its just so fukking 
that we're still fighting over this.
He mentions that these other systems are not perfect and in some cases they have glaring problems, but overall the pros outweigh the cons, especially put in contrast to the american system. NONE of these countries even consider the idea acceptable that medical issues should bankrupt a person.
62%, fukkING 62% of bankruptcies in the united states are due to medical issues. This is just ridiculous.
Meanwhile in japan, it only cost $4.20 to get stitches for a 6 inch or smaller wound.
that we're still fighting over this.He mentions that these other systems are not perfect and in some cases they have glaring problems, but overall the pros outweigh the cons, especially put in contrast to the american system. NONE of these countries even consider the idea acceptable that medical issues should bankrupt a person.
62%, fukkING 62% of bankruptcies in the united states are due to medical issues. This is just ridiculous.
Meanwhile in japan, it only cost $4.20 to get stitches for a 6 inch or smaller wound.
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It was more of his presentation of it, the way he broke it down, the information made sense, still don't agree with all of but I understand it better now
No offense but you've proven to be a bit of an airhead and unfortunately most Americans are airheads.
your basing this off of what, me asking what recuse meant in the other thread, I just needed a better context of itThis is what politicians perfect in though.
Its no coincidence that a lot of politicians are former lawyers. No one doubts their ability to "connect" and sell. Hell, these are people who can know with every fiber in their being their client is guilty and they have to convincingly sell a jury of 12 people and/or judge that he is innocent.
Anything in the plan itself you like outside of who presents the information that catches your eye? Again just curious. Its obvious I'm not as smitten with the plan but I am interested in seeing arguments for it or at least passing support of some parts.