House GOP reveals AHCA: Update - Repeal of ACA IS BACK ON

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Rand Paul's idea of buying groups and co-opts is what's been done in Oregon.

A progressive idea that's a form of single payer.

Wouldn't buying groups just lead to the poor and unhealthy, especially with the freedom caucuses desire from an extreme roll back of medicaid expansion, lead to them still having rising cost or no insurance at all? Especially with the removal of the preexisting condition clause they are also opposing.

It seems their entire approach is we want to bring down insurance costs for the poor by not making them have insurance or to have cheaper, but inadequate coverage.
 

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Wouldn't buying groups just lead to the poor and unhealthy, especially with the freedom caucuses desire from an extreme roll back of medicaid expansion, lead to them still having rising cost or no insurance at all? Especially with the removal of the preexisting condition clause they are also opposing.

It seems their entire approach is we want to bring down insurance costs for the poor by not making them have insurance or to have cheaper, but inadequate coverage.

yup
 

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half your man's men are under indictment tho
Who gives a shyt, Manafort was under indictment and forced to resign and you incesstintly retweeted about it being the end of #TrumpSet yadda yadda yadda yadda...Now look at you, forced to tweet about #TrumpSet the next 8 years:selfether:
 

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They said Trump took an L a day in 2016 up until election day and we see how that turned out:trumpmad:
This is small potatoes really, we only 60 days in of an 8 year presidency:trumpmad:
A deal will get done in a few months and all of this will be a dream, just like that time last year when Chicago thought they defeated Trump by blocking him from speaking:trumpmad:
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Pence in WV bashing Obamacare talking bout it failed, bytch Trumpcare failed :mjlol:

Pence expanded Medicaid lol

HIP 2.0 was a huge success.

They used a hospital tax and cigarette tax to pay for it.

Ryan/Trump plan was...


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Ya'll peep this? :sas1::sas2::mjpls:


They all follow the same tired playbook. Whenever cacs get called out on their bullshyt, their first instinct is to redirect the conversation and accuse you of being "angry", "aggressive" and "hostile".

How can someone suss out someone's tone from a post? :jbhmm: Dumbass cacroach.


He needs to start posting in The Booth exclusively since those are the only dumb nikkas still falling for his shyt.
so people in america arent angry about donald trump being the president :laff:

shut the fukk up, you dumbass tranny. i dont even know what gender you are, let alone race
 

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There you go again with the misdirection. :laff:

Your post specifically referred to @ReignAsKing , who has been nothing but civil and cordial to you.


Lying ass, tranny-obsessed ass cacroach. :stopitslime:
and i dont even have any problems with dude. this is the fukkin internet :mjlol: but you came in and tried to throw a racism allegation at me because...i couldnt even follow your post :dead:

just shut the fukk up, rupaul
 

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But when Trump and co say that ObamaCare will blow up this year, they're apparently correct. I wonder how that fits with this reasoning on political strategy.

When the ACA was rolled out, telling insurance companies that they had to insure anybody who signed up, regardless of previous conditions or sickness, everybody realized that the insurance companies would probably lose money in the first decade or so, until previously-uninsured-but-sick people got into the system, got better, and things evened out.

To get the insurance companies to go along with this danger of losing money, the ACA promised to make them whole for any losses in any of the first decade’s years. At the end of each fiscal year, the insurance companies merely had to document their losses, and the government would reimburse them out of ACA funds provided for by the law.

The possibility of their losing money was referred to as the “risk corridor,” and the ACA explicitly filled those risk corridors with a guarantee of making the insurance companies, at the very least, whole.

And then something happened. As The New York Times noted on December 9, 2015, “A little-noticed health care provision slipped into a giant spending law last year has tangled up the Obama administration, sent tremors through health insurance markets and rattled confidence in the durability of President Obama’s signature health law.”

Rubio and a number of other Republicans had succeeded in gutting the risk corridors. The result was that, just in 2015, end-of-fiscal-year risk corridor payments to insurance companies that were supposed to total around $2.9 billion were only reimbursed, according to Rubio himself quoted in the Times, to the tune of around $400 million. Rubio bragged that he’d “saved taxpayers $2.5 billion.”

And, indeed, he had. But the insurance companies were thrown into a crisis. And, with Republicans in Congress absolutely refusing to re-fund the risk corridors, that crisis would get worse as time went on, at least over a period of a few years.

So the insurance companies did the only things they could. In (mostly red) states with low incomes and thus poorer health, they simply pulled out of the marketplace altogether. This has left some states with only one single insurer left. In others, they jacked up their prices to make up their losses.

As Robert Pear in the Times noted, Rubio’s “plan limiting how much the government can spend to protect insurance companies against financial losses has shown the effectiveness of quiet legislative sabotage.”

To add to the political psychodrama, the first hack by Rubio was maintained by Republicans into the 2016 budget, meaning that things got even worse in October, 2016 – the first month of the federal fiscal year when these cuts hit the worse, and, no coincidence, the month before the presidential election.

Rubio’s October Surprise was extraordinarily effective. October 2016 saw an explosion of stories in the news about how health insurance companies were either pulling out of ACA exchanges, or jacking their prices up wildly.

Time magazine wrote “8 States Where Obamacare Rates Are Rising by at Least 30%” without mentioning Rubio’s role in why. Ditto for NPR’s “22 Percent Hike in Obamacare Rates…” and CNN’s “Obamacare Premiums Soar By 22%.” If you date-limit just to October of 2016 – the month before the election – you can find hundreds of similar articles. It was a huge story, but somehow Little Marco’s role in it all – along with his friends in the GOP – never made it into any of the stories.

Only the Times, back the previous year, had really given much coverage to the story, noting, “ecause of Mr. Rubio’s efforts, the administration says it will pay only 13 percent of what insurance companies were expecting to receive this year. The payments were supposed to help insurers cope with the risks they assumed when they decided to participate in the law’s new insurance marketplaces.”

Meanwhile, federal judge Thomas Wheeler of the US Court of Federal Claims, ruled recently (as reported last month by Forbes) that the feds actually have to pay back – to the tune of about $8 billion – the moneys lost by health insurance companies operationg in good faith.

But it’s way too late; dozens of nonprofits started to provide health insurance through the exchanges have already gone bankrupt, and the health insurance giants are both subsuming their smaller competitors and merging like there’s no tomorrow. Additionally, Wheeler’s ruling is certain to be appealed – meaning it’s in limbo for the moment.

So, yes, Donald Trump is right that Obamacare had been sabotaged, in a way that would virtually guarantee at least some level of crisis by 2017. Where he’s sadly, paranoiacly wrong is in attributing that sabotage to President Obama.

Democrats should have been screaming bloody murder for the past 2 years. Maybe they can start now, every time a reporter or Republican says, “Obamacare is failing…”

How Republicans quietly sabotaged Obamacare long before Trump came into office
 
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