Houston officially lost!! "Boy p*ssy" :scust:

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I can dig that. But I notice nobody really hold women responsible at all.

I get the exact opposite. In the rap world, the video vixen/hoe is probably the most maligned person, next to the weed carriers.
 

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I get the exact opposite. In the rap world, the video vixen/hoe is probably the most maligned person, next to the weed carriers.
We all make jokes but it's never gonna change. All u can do is focus on what images u wanna see. I complain about it too at times. Sadly it's apart of our culture. Positive images in videos/music is the least favorite. Just look at this thread lol. Every now and then we get a glimpse of good images. That's y I'm more focused on what I listen to and what I see more than what the media throws at me.
 

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I don't know why, but this made me laugh...


I showed my fiancΓ© last night, NOW she believes that there is something sinister going on behind the scenes of music. We didn't get all caught up in that "illuminati" mess but I told her, SOMEONE is controlling the message and it ain't the artists
 

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I haven't even made it to page 3 yet, but I really wanna know how you just happened to run into this song :laugh:

I listened to some of that cakes da killa shyt based off that fantino review, I could actually tolerate him as a rapper without the explicit sex stuff. I'm fine with homosexuals having a voice in Hip Hop but they gonna have to move beyond the 2 live crew shyt and the overall gimmick of being gay to get any kind of respect.

Naw bro, I can't necessarily cosign that cuz Channel Orange was dope. I think the issue here is with the overt display of sexuality in the video and the explicitly suggestive lyrics. Everyone is free to express their love for whomever, but this song and video was downright distasteful and contained no redeeming artistic value. I'd compare it more to Nicki Minaj's release of "Lookin' Ass nikka" earlier this year moreso than Frank Ocean cuz my issue is that while lil homie has the right to express himself freely (as did Nicki with Malcolm on the cover art), he's doing so at the expense of artistic integrity (unless you consider "boy p*ssy" to be a dope metaphor):huhldup:.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, it's really got me rethinking some things, particularly where the lines between 'shock value' and equal rights are blurred. How can I accept this behavior from heterosexuals but have opposition to the behavior from homosexuals? But even still I'm conflicted, because what if this were a love song about two consenting homosexuals that was not overtly misogynistic or explicit? How would I feel then? I don't quite know the answer on that one, but I can say with certainty that while Ocean's "Forrest Gump" was not for me, it did have redeeming artistic value.

This is not an indictment against you dude, I typically agree with a lot of your posts, but we can't blame this one on Frank.

I don't even wanna hear straight rappers talk explicitly about sex, shyt is disgusting especially with some kind of serious tone, nikkas like Devin make me chuckle when they say nasty shyt but 99% of the time I really don't need visuals of my favorite emcees having sex.

Being a gay artist doesn't mean you'll automatically make music where you go into detail about the sexual aspects. Nobody would have known Frank was gay from his music unless they were listening extra extra close and even then it was barely implied. Not to say you gotta censor yourself but don't turn your sexuality into a gimmick, you wanna be respected as an artist then let me see/hear your art.
 
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Unless this turns into an internet meme like that "what what in the butt" song/video, I'm pretty next to certain none of us will ever have to hear/see this song/video again unless you're frequenting gay clubs...they've had their own lil subculture forever, and somehow someway the earth has managed to remain on it's axis all these years

Homophobes love homo-erotica for some reason. I imagine these nikkas are running up and down their blocks wondering which house has disgusting homos inside eating da poo poo.

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There must be a revolt against this shyt. Restrict this to the gay channels only. No way my eyes should lay upon this filth.

- I have read this thread from start to finish.
- I haven't watched the video.
- I haven't heard the song.
- I don't plan to click play on that shyt at any point in the future.
- My eyes, sanity and sexual preference would still be in tact even if I had.

Gangsta rap had to die out cause it made black folk all fukked up in the head and it damn near came to civil war. Hypermasculinity is fukked up and we need another Chuck D, not this shyt :gag:

Our community is fukked up because there hasn't been damage control since the days of the pro-black MC.



Now being that we have enough homophobes making enough "gay" threads and even going as far as posting gay music on the board, I figured I wouldn't add to the clutter, but I'm of the belief that if conscious rap music had stayed as prevalent as it was during it's era...this homosexuality debate/dialogue would have taken place A LOT sooner as it is a social issue. (I felt like this was thread worthy but there were already like 5 "gay agenda" joints up)

If nikkas had got their way and had all the "Chuck D's" and the real thinkers, speakers, activists still getting mic/stage time this process of shifting perspectives and acceptance would have been sped up IMO...the distraction and deviation further into consumer culture made it seem like this, and other things within the community were somehow non-issues when that wasn't the case.

We going from one extreme (hypermasculinity and repping violence) to another extreme (homo behavior in a sensational matter). What Hip Hop needs is a grown folks perspective of things and not this extra-clownish bullshyt that is forced at our faces.

Again, I have yet to click play on that vid and I don't plan on it...who is forcing you nikkas to post/view this shyt? :laugh:

nikkas can't even be responsible for their own eyes and ears anymore (not necessarily just taking shots at you, but in general)
 
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