joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
If god has everything planned, why the fukk does he say we have free will?
That's like going to a theme park with your kids and saying, "You can do whatever you want, but if you don't do as I say, you're gonna get punished."
How can there be a divine plan and free will at the same time?
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If god has everything planned, why the fukk does he say we have free will?
That's like going to a theme park with your kids and saying, "You can do whatever you want, but if you don't do as I say, you're gonna get punished."
joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
I bet nobody came up with an explanation and just told you
1. Don't question
2. You're going to hell
3. We can't hope to understand divine shyt
4. May @hayesc0 be guided to Islam
I bet nobody came up with an explanation and just told you
1. Don't question
2. You're going to hell
3. We can't hope to understand divine shyt
4. May @hayesc0 be guided to Islam
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/if-god-has-a-plan-for-everyone-how-do-we-have-freewill.295979/
Poh SIti Dawn
Staying Positive, Getting Better Everyday. Holler!
Every man is equal.. But the US had slaves.
Life is a contradiction itself.
There's a divine plan, because you are born to be who you are going to become. Just because there is a plan that doesn't mean its going to be executed because of our freewill.
I could have become a hooper, everywhere I go people ask me that, but I didn't, that could have been my divine plan. I didn't follow through with it because I have freewill and hooping isn't my thing. Now that doesn't mean the universe, the earth, god,-whoever you'd like to give credit to- doesn't have other plans for me. I simply pick and decide and they provide assistance along the way.
Life is a contradiction itself.
There's a divine plan, because you are born to be who you are going to become. Just because there is a plan that doesn't mean its going to be executed because of our freewill.
I could have become a hooper, everywhere I go people ask me that, but I didn't, that could have been my divine plan. I didn't follow through with it because I have freewill and hooping isn't my thing. Now that doesn't mean the universe, the earth, god,-whoever you'd like to give credit to- doesn't have other plans for me. I simply pick and decide and they provide assistance along the way.
GetInTheTruck
Member
It can only be explained through karma.
Fate is the sum total of all karma.
Free will is present karma.
They're the same thing in the grand scheme.
You can either accept this paradigm, or be an atheist and reject it all. It's the only way to deal with this dilemma.
Fate is the sum total of all karma.
Free will is present karma.
They're the same thing in the grand scheme.
You can either accept this paradigm, or be an atheist and reject it all. It's the only way to deal with this dilemma.
joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
If the US had slaves, then every man is not equal. The slave master and the slave prayed to the same God. Guess God favoured slave owners for a few centuries. What does that say about him?
So God's plan is free will? That ain't a damn plan that's just letting shyt happen and claiming credit
joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
Karma? I used to believe in that as a kid.
But now I'm grown.
There's no quantifiable method to measure karma, nor can it be proved that it exists.
OG_StankBrefs
Da Spice...
So all those chirren born into horrible situations like famine, human trafficking, incest, pedophilia, disease, abusive homes, etc. and die early or grow up to be mentally unstable human beings because of it (serial killas, pornstars, prostitutes, drug addicts, alcoholic, criminals,etc.)...was planned for em?
Some pretty shytty "plans" for innocent lives dere, breh..
the cac mamba
Banned
Poh SIti Dawn
Staying Positive, Getting Better Everyday. Holler!
To play devils advocate, who said they're innocent lives? For all we know they could have done terrible things in the past life.So all those chirren born into horrible situations like famine, human trafficking, incest, pedophilia, disease, abusive homes, etc. and die early or grow up to be mentally unstable human beings because of it (serial killas, pornstars, prostitutes, drug addicts, alcoholic, criminals,etc.)...was planned for em?
Some pretty shytty "plans" for innocent lives dere, breh..
But to argue my point that wasn't planned, people who derailed from the plan of the divine negatively impacted these children's lives. That wasn't planned for them. The divine can only do so much, which is why I'd tell you not to hold your breath if you're praying all the time.
Poh SIti Dawn
Staying Positive, Getting Better Everyday. Holler!
I didn't mean it like that. Sorry I thought I made my point obvious about contradictions. The US says that every man is equal but had slaves.
God didn't favor the slave owners. Its freewill. Its not gods fault that one section of his people decided to harm another.
OG_StankBrefs
Da Spice...
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
Religion and logic don't mix.
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
If I were to convert someone to my religion at the end of a sword the person being converted still has free will because they can say no.