Still the best player in the world. He was wrong for that Heat shyt but last year he won the title straight up. They needed to add a top 3 player to beat him
No they didnt and he aint the best player in the world
How can you not respect Lebron after this?
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No they didnt and he aint the best player in the world
I'd love the guy trashing Lebron's defense to explain what player in NBA history could have done more.
Lebron didn't have Durant's advantage of having guys like Iggy and Draymond to take the defensive load off of him.
If you switch Lebron and Durant, and put Durant out there on an island without meaningful defensive help while also forcing him to carry a massive offensive burden, then he's going to give up 35ppg to Lebron on efficient shooting just like Lebron did.
Oh, wait, Durant DID give up 35ppg on efficient shooting to Lebron even though he younger, has less offensive burden to carry, and has THREE ballers on his team giving better defensive help than anyone Lebron got.
Lebron didn't have Durant's advantage of having guys like Iggy and Draymond to take the defensive load off of him.
If you switch Lebron and Durant, and put Durant out there on an island without meaningful defensive help while also forcing him to carry a massive offensive burden, then he's going to give up 35ppg to Lebron on efficient shooting just like Lebron did.
Oh, wait, Durant DID give up 35ppg on efficient shooting to Lebron even though he younger, has less offensive burden to carry, and has THREE ballers on his team giving better defensive help than anyone Lebron got.
It wasnt really stat padding. he was taking the layups that they were basically giving him. and trading baskets., just so the clock would keep running. The cavs should have tried to pull more 3s late, but definitely if bron was gonna get quick lay ups, they needed to get stops on the other end tooIt was so obvious and the Warriors didn't care about giving up a bunch of layups at that point.
They were just trading baskets because the Cavs defense is so
"If Love and Kyrie are ON the same night"
The problem is that shyt happens like once every three games, tops. And it's completely canceled out if Steph and Klay are on. What's the point of building a team who "might" be the other team's equal less than half the time?
"They got enough firepower on the bench too they just didnt do their part."
Richard Jefferson is 36 years old, Kyle Korver is 35 years old, Deron Williams is 32 years old and went
years ago, Frye and Shrump have NEVER been good like that.The idea that there was a bunch of incredible bench firepower was a mirage. There were guys that could hit open shots, who became
when they actually got D'd up and had to produce under pressure. Livingston and Iggy were the two best players off the bench yet again, which only added to the fact that Warriors #2-#5 are clearly another level above the Cavs #2-#5.
This post is trash. Love does so much better right now than Melo. Melo isn't even the scorer he used to be
theGoldmangod
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Can someone explain how the Cavs managed to be so outmatched at the same time that they claim Bron, who is on the Cavs, to be the unparalleled best player on the planet 
How is the best player in the league already top 10 player of all time player consistently on an underdog, but an underdog that manages to be in the finals every year and nearly sweep through the East
Something's gotta give
How is the best player in the league already top 10 player of all time player consistently on an underdog, but an underdog that manages to be in the finals every year and nearly sweep through the East
Something's gotta give
theGoldmangod
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The problem is, you're going to get inconsistent play like that when you play how LeBron teams play. This literally happens with every cast he has, nikkas have to notice a pattern by now. It happened when he played with the Heat too. Shoe in HOFer Wade and at least 3rd best SG of all time became inconsistent af. Well sought after FA and top 5 at his position at the time Chris Bosh became soft and useless.
This year, each team had 3 stars with a lot of offensive firepower around them. As far as I'm concerned, the difference in this series was the style of play and to a lesser extent, defense. Golden State plays a style of basketball that maximizes all its players talents and aims to keep everybody in rhythm. Cavs, and all LBJ teams, play a style of basketball that maximizes his talent and aims to keep him in rhythm and able to control the game at all times. It works often, sometimes it doesn't. This is one of those times. But cats gotta foh always taking the good of the way LeBron plays and then tossing the bad off onto his teammates. Didn't even bother with the rest of your post, because its more teammate blaming trash.
OUTSIDE OF REBOUNDING... LOVE AIN'T fukkING WITH MELO AT ALLLLL.
while that's true, let's remember that the Heat went to the Finals every year he was there bro. Also remember that Wade had knee trouble and would miss like 30-35 games a season. Also let's remember in 2012 that Bosh missed half the playoffs and the Heat still went on to win a ring. A lot of people don't point this out but Bron's teams have been haunted by the injury bug. Wade, Bosh both suffered injuries. Kyrie and Love missed an entire finals. The only finals I absolutely blame Lebron for was 2011. He choked in that one. The Cavs could have beat the Warriors in 2015 with a healthy roster. They beat them in 2016.
LBJ competed and won against a 73-9 team. They added Durant bro. Cavs are a great team but the Warriors are all-time great
theGoldmangod
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Wade only had durability problems the last season they were together. That's after he changed his game completely to suit LeBron, including adding weight to work in the post which added to his knee wear and tear. Bosh too changed his game entirely to suit LeBron. Became a 3 point shooter and would barely step foot in the post because of him.
And I still don't think Bron choked in 2011. I think he stopped playing because he knew Wade would win the FMVP and validate all the "he went to Wade's team" talk he let get to him the whole season. I respect how Steph played hard to get this ring even knowing KD was going to get the FMVP and it'd be his 3rd finals and 2nd ring without getting one. So what LeBron did was some hoe shyt I'll never forget, but that's just me
I give Bron that he competed, just like I give his teammates that yall never want to credit for anything. I also stand by saying this was the first year it was evenly matched. Last year it was 3 stars vs. 2, favoring Cavs. Previous it was 2 stars vs. 1, favoring GSW. This year it was 3 vs. 3 and the better team won.
TheAnalyst504
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Obi LeBron Kenobi the force ghost of the league.
He should, but can't get struck down anymore.
He should, but can't get struck down anymore.
Can someone explain how the Cavs managed to be so outmatched at the same time that they claim Bron, who is on the Cavs, to be the unparalleled best player on the planet
How is the best player in the league already top 10 player of all time player consistently on an underdog, but an underdog that manages to be in the finals every year and nearly sweep through the East
Something's gotta give
Let me explain it really slowly for you.
Golden State has four guys who were All-NBA last year, plus the 6th Man of the Year.
Cleveland has one guy who was All-NBA last year and their best player off the bench is 36-year-old Richard Jefferson.
Cleveland, with Kyrie and Love, has two very good shooters to complement Lebron.
Golden State has arguably the best three shooters in NBA history, all on the same team.
Kevin Durant has become a great defender, but when he needs help, he has Draymond, Iggy, and Klay to back him up.
Lebron James is a great defender when rested, but when he needs help, he's relying on TT, JR, and Shump.
Now does it make sense to you?
Each team had 3 stars? So we're just going to ignore that Draymond just made back-to-back All-NBA teams and is going to be DPOY this year?
The complaint about the Lebron has been that he defers too much and doesn't take over, and now you saying that he doesn't keep guys in rhythm?
That's a bunch of utter bullshyt. Kyrie got to pound the ball into the floor and do what he wanted all the time this year. It's Kyrie's ball-pounding that keeps other players from getting in rhythm (20 shots/game to only 6 assists/game), not Lebron's court general play (18 shots/game to 9 assists/game).
Tell me what you actually want to see Kyrie doing with the ball that he's not getting to do because of Lebron. Tell me what plays you actually want to see them run with Love that he's not getting to run because of Lebron. Tell me how JR and TT and Shump and Frye would be all-world offensive players if they weren't stuck playing with Lebron.
Cavs lost because the Warriors scored 122 points/game with the three best shooters in NBA history. Dray is a far better defender than Love, Iggy is a far better defender than Jefferson, Klay is a far better defender than JR, Steph is a better defender than Kyrie, and Zaza neutralized TT. How the hell you beat a team when their shooters AND their defenders are better than yours? However good Kyrie and Love can be on offense, they are obviously NOT going to be Steph and Klay, and that's even before you get to the defensive side of the ball.
As far as Heat goes, you just tried to rewrite history.
The only time Wade was inconsistent on the Heat was when he was injured, outside of injuries his consistency was fine. His best four shooting seasons of his career were the four seasons he played with Bron - 50%, 50%, 52%, and 55%.
And Bosh was a more consistent, efficient player with Lebron - he shot 54% in 2013 and 52% in 2014, the best numbers of his career. He just took fewer shots because he was a 3rd option.
Were you saying this on Christmas, when the Cavs beat them?
Were ANY of you nikkas screaming this "talent disparity" shyt back on Christmas?
No....no you were NOT.
Rollo Goodlove
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They need to dump Tristan Thompson that's money that could've been spent else where