How come Bogut doesn't like His Former Coach Mark Jackson?

[NYC Rebel]

Sure, but he's not that. Nothing I know of his character or actions suggests that he is. The reason he made those comments about M Jax has more to do with his blunt nature than him being a racist. Its reckless to just throw around that word without any concrete evidence. Him not liking another man that happens to be black isn't proof of a damn thing

How do you know what his character is like beyond what he said?

Are you reading his comments beyond Mark jackson like everyone else is? Why not address that?

The nature of those comments weren't "blunt." They were close minded and rife with xenophobia.

 

[NYC Rebel]

What examples? His comments on people wasting money in the NBA and the rap culture that exists in the league? Nothing wrong with that, why do we have to label the man something as critical as a racist because of a damn quote probably taken out of context

That was over the top garbage on his part. What is it about white privilege that people are so ready to cape for dudes that say clown shyt? The fact he excluded blacks international players from his "international players" umbrella says a lot.

 

[Consumed]

How do you know what his character is like beyond what he said?

Are you reading his comments beyond Mark jackson like everyone else is? Why not address that?

The nature of those comments weren't "blunt." They were close minded and rife with xenophobia.

Yeah and I am addressing it. He's speaking on the culture of the NBA where a relatively high percentage of millionaires do wind up broke because of frivolous purchases and not understanding how to handle their money. Thats just a fact and he's blunt to not sugar coat any of his words, if this was a black man would we be considering his comments racist or insensitive? He's heavy into politics and invested into the financial world, manages his own money does his own investments and pays his own bills. He feels strongly about this topic because it goes directly against how he lives his life and can result in poverty. Maybe he does come off a little xenophobic about the American culture in general suggesting he wouldn't want to raise a kid in this cash rules everything around me environment, but that hardly makes him a racist. Rather someone that grew up in a dirt poor environment learning how to work for everything he's earned and wants his child to do the same. Lot of people in this country black or white share this same perspective

I kind of don't want to raise them around this environment because I don't think it's a healthy environment in a way for children. Because everything's monetary, everything's about money and flashiness and what car you drive. Not to disrespect how other people live, but it's something that I don't think is appropriate for children. I don't think a child should have a Louis Vuitton bag at four years old or have a cell phone at six. That's something I don't think is right, and it's not the way I'll raise my kids the day I have ‘em. Yeah, it's an interesting one. I'll just try to keep my kids level-headed and make sure that they work just as hard as I did to get to where they are. There are going to be no free handouts and I'll want them to have a normal childhood.

Just looks like an old school mentality to me. I have black uncles who think the same way. He has his own view of how a child should be raised and thats that. And here's him shedding light on the Larry Sanders situation

I think what Larry was trying to say is he doesn't want basketball to define him, he wants to define himself. And I think that's when we go back to what guys are doing off the court and all that, you gotta have outlets that aren't just predicated on basketball because you'll drive yourself crazy. You'll get to a point where you retire, and you want to know what happens to a lot of those guys two or three years out of retirement? They get depression and then all hell breaks loose financially and emotionally and socially. So I think he made the right decision.

A lot of people think he's crazy leaving that money on the table, but mental health is an interesting one. I have some friends and family that had similar issues. And it's a tough one because you can't see it. It's not like a broken leg where you have a cast on and people can feel sorry for you. It's in your head. And people kind of call you soft and a p*ssy for it. That's just the reality of being a professional sportsman. You're supposed to be tough and be able to fight through anything. But I think what Larry did is an even tougher thing than what most people could do.

The time I spent with Larry, he was a really good teammate. I got along with him just fine. He was a young player, I had no problems with him and I really do wish him the best.

Bogut is very smart man. You read or watch any of his interviews and this is just the way that he speaks. Look at his twitter feed. To me he's one of if not the best interview in basketball because of how straight forward he is. He has other articles just like the one on the first page of this thread but on different subject matters and he speaks the same way. And for as critical as he was about M Jax he showed Gentry with praise and expressed regret that he would leave to day because, quote, "He's too talented of a coach to not be head coaching"

 

[NYC Rebel]

Yeah and I am addressing it. He's speaking on the culture of the NBA where a relatively high percentage of millionaires do wind up broke because of frivolous purchases and not understanding how to handle their money. Thats just a fact and he's blunt to not sugar coat any of his words, if this was a black man would we be considering his comments racist or insensitive? He's heavy into politics and invested into the financial world, manages his own money does his own investments and pays his own bills. He feels strongly about this topic because it goes directly against how he lives his life and can result in poverty. Maybe he does come off a little xenophobic about the American culture in general suggesting he wouldn't want to raise a kid in this cash rules everything around me environment, but that hardly makes him a racist. Rather someone that grew up in a dirt poor environment learning how to work for everything he's earned and wants his child to do the same. Lot of people in this country black or white share this same perspective



Just looks like an old school mentality to me. I have black uncles who think the same way. He has his own view of how a child should be raised and thats that. And here's him shedding light on the Larry Sanders situation



Bogut is very smart man. You read or watch any of his interviews and this is just the way that he speaks. Look at his twitter feed. To me he's one of if not the best interview in basketball because of how straight forward he is. He has other articles just like the one on the first page of this thread but on different subject matters and he speaks the same way. And for as critical as he was about M Jax he showed Gentry with praise and expressed regret that he would leave to day because, quote, "He's too talented of a coach to not be head coaching"

You can be smart and still be lazy enough to reach for the easiest stereotypes and blanket an entire group as he did there.

I don't care if he's praised other black men. Tons of bigots find time to praise certain black men while shytting on entire groups. You act as if an educated Duke professor didn't come out his ass about folks. I'm sorry...NBA players aren't this lazy ass "one size fits all" depiction he gave on the players like the typical Fox News viewer. I'm sorry..."people" including "NBA players" are nuanced and have more texture than that wack explanation he gave.

For you to call him smart and brilliant on other things and not question the polar opposite definition he gave for players is on you. Some of us have lived in this skin long enough to know what that is.

 

[Consumed]

You can be smart and still be lazy enough to reach for the easiest stereotypes and blanket an entire group as he did there.

I don't care if he's praised other black men. Tons of bigots find time to praise certain black men while shytting on entire groups. You act as if an educated Duke professor didn't come out his ass about folks. I'm sorry...NBA players aren't this lazy ass "one size fits all" depiction he gave on the players like the typical Fox News viewer. I'm sorry..."people" including "NBA players" are nuanced and have more texture than that wack explanation he gave.

For you to call him smart and brilliant on other things and not question the polar opposite definition he gave for players is on you. Some of us have lived in this skin long enough to know what that is.

How was that a lazy assessment, is it not true that the broke rate for retired NBA players is exceptionally high because of poor investment choices & a lack of wisdom regarding how to manage their finances? Or was that completely fabricated or something. And its not even exclusive to the NBA but NFL as well where 1 of 6 players wind up broke by retirement. This is a REAL problem that exists in sports and he's just acknowledging that.

I think you're just being sensitive here. Which is fine, but to accuse Bogut of being a racist because of that interview is grossly unfair

 

[NYC Rebel]

How was that a lazy assessment, is it not true that the broke rate for retired NBA players is exceptionally high because of poor investment choices & a lack of wisdom regarding how to manage their finances? Or was that completely fabricated or something. And its not even exclusive to the NBA but NFL as well where 1 of 6 players wind up broke by retirement. This is a REAL problem that exists in sports and he's just acknowledging that.

I think you're just being sensitive here. Which is fine, but to accuse Bogut of being a racist because of that interview is grossly unfair

It is lazy. I have friends that work for the NBA and most players don't fit that easy to reach for blanket statement he reached for.

It's garbage and you're backing that thrash

 

[Consumed]

It is lazy. I have friends that work for the NBA and most players don't fit that easy to reach for blanket statement he reached for.

It's garbage and you're backing that thrash

Not lazy when there have been studies that verify over half of professional NBA players face bankruptcy or tough financial hardship within five years of retirement. That's just a fact man and that does speak to a culture that prides itself on flaunting monetary possessions. Once the professional sports life is taken away many arent able to readjust their habits and continue to spend & pay gross bills with a severely reduced income. All I'm doing is agreeing with this assessment that many players do not properly manage their finances and it often leads to financial ruin

 

[NYC Rebel]

Not lazy when there have been studies that verify over half of professional NBA players face bankruptcy or tough financial hardship within five years of retirement. That's just a fact man and that does speak to a culture that prides itself on flaunting monetary possessions. Once the professional sports life is taken away many arent able to readjust their habits and continue to spend & pay gross bills with a severely reduced income. All I'm doing is agreeing with this assessment that many players do not properly manage their finances and it often leads to financial ruin

It is lazy. I'm sorry...but most NBA players arent drenched in gold and all of the bs you're trying to clean up in your version of what Bogut said.

You're so pressed in saving him you're not even speaking in the manner he spoke in. You rather give some cookie cutter financial adviser version of what he said when what he went for was pure trash.

Stop saving that bigot.

 

[Originalman]

It is lazy. I'm sorry...but most NBA players arent drenched in gold and all of the bs you're trying to clean up in your version of what Bogut said.

You're so pressed in saving him you're not even speaking in the manner he spoke in. You rather give some cookie cutter financial adviser version of what he said when what he went for was pure trash.

Stop saving that bigot.

Jokers straight up exposing themselves in this thread. Like I said bogut a smart dumb mothafukka.

 

[Consumed]

It is lazy. I'm sorry...but most NBA players arent drenched in gold and all of the bs you're trying to clean up in your version of what Bogut said.

You're so pressed in saving him you're not even speaking in the manner he spoke in. You rather give some cookie cutter financial adviser version of what he said when what he went for was pure trash.

Stop saving that bigot.

At no point in that interview did he say most NBA players lived that lifestyle, but a lot. That's obviously true and it can lead to financial ruin post retirement if you aren't careful. To deny that means to feign ignorance in order to suit your own narrative. Where exactly is the evidence of racism here, seems to me like yet another witch hunt to label someone the most damning term imaginable based on the weakest of evidence

Nothing financial advisory about giving obvious truths regarding more than half of players in the NBA deal with financial ruin post retirement or that frivolous decisions are generally the cause of it. What you deem to be frivolous is up to the individual, but for Bogut that is spending a large amount of money on accessories like one hundred grand for a chain and not making wise investments. I really don't see what the problem is with thinking this way

 

[NYC Rebel]

At no point in that interview did he say most NBA players lived that lifestyle, but a lot. That's obviously true and it can lead to financial ruin post retirement if you aren't careful. To deny that means to feign ignorance in order to suit your own narrative. Where exactly is the evidence of racism here, seems to me like yet another witch hunt to label someone the most damning term imaginable based on the weakest of evidence

Nothing financial advisory about giving obvious truths regarding more than half of players in the NBA deal with financial ruin post retirement or that frivolous decisions are generally the cause of it. What you deem to be frivolous is up to the individual, but for Bogut that is spending a large amount of money on accessories like one hundred grand for a chain and not making wise investments. I really don't see what the problem is with thinking this way

Man please. He clearly draped most players with that lazy narrative and here your are giving a tide clean version of what he said.

He reached for every garden variety stereotype and draped it on American and obviously black players.

And here you are not only sanitizing it but giving it life.

 

[Consumed]

Man please. He clearly draped most players with that lazy narrative and here your are giving a tide clean version of what he said.

He reached for every garden variety stereotype and draped it on American and obviously black players.

And here you are not only sanitizing it but giving it life.

No not clearly, he never said most but you're just going to assume his intent and call him a racist based on your own loose interpretation in a print interview. That's a shame man

What stereotype. Are many NBA players not invested into those things? Is it not true that most players wind up broke post retirement. Is there not a correlation between wearing wealth on your sleeve & making huge spur of the moment investments and millionaires going broke. He also refers to how hard it likely is for someone who's never had a great deal of money to suddenly come into a situation where they're rich

 

[NYC Rebel]

No not clearly, he never said most but you're just going to assume his intent and call him a racist based on your own loose interpretation in a print interview. That's a shame man

What stereotype. Are many NBA players not invested into those things? Is it not true that most players wind up broke post retirement. Is there not a correlation between wearing wealth on your sleeve & making huge spur of the moment investments and millionaires going broke. He also refers to how hard it likely is for someone who's never had a great deal of money to suddenly come into a situation where they're rich

I'm going to be my own spokesman and know the lazy nikka narrative he reached for and you're cleaning up.

I don't care how many high profile failures are payed in the media to feed the narrative he reached for. Most players aren't on the bs he claimed. I have friends that work for the league...God willing my wife will be working there soon. What he said and you're now sanitizing is bullshyt.
Act like an Australian can't come here with dislike or bias for people of color.

 

[Consumed]

I'm going to be my own spokesman and know the lazy nikka narrative he reached for and you're cleaning up.

I don't care how many high profile failures are payed in the media to feed the narrative he reached for. Most players aren't on the bs he claimed. I have friends that work for the league...God willing my wife will be working there soon. What he said and you're now sanitizing is bullshyt.
Act like an Australian can't come here with dislike or bias for people of color.

Again, he never said most lmao. You're just interpreting things how you want to see it. Obviously anyone of any color can have bias towards another race but I'm not going to sit here and accuse someone of such until I get concrete evidence suggesting such. What Bogut said was not that

Its not just high profile failures there have been reputable studies done that suggests a large portion of professional athletes go broke not just in basketball but across all sports. A lot of these guys don't even get to choose when they hang it up. The league forces them out due to a lack of ability and they're left unprepared not ready to make that adjustment from a lavish lifestyle to something more mundane. This is a legit problem across all sports and it doesn't even have to be a race discussion lol

 

[ghostwriterx]

How do you know what his character is like beyond what he said?

Are you reading his comments beyond Mark jackson like everyone else is? Why not address that?

The nature of those comments weren't "blunt." They were close minded and rife with xenophobia.

Xenophobia is different from racism no?