How come MJ stans ain't the biggest Kobe stans???

[Newzz]

Besides, Phil Jackson already said Jordan by a mile. So that pretty much makes it FACT
Feel free to cry about it

The Kobe Rules: A unique set of standards for a unique player - Los Angeles Times

Happily for the Lakers, Bryant and Coach Phil Jackson are on the same page ... even if it took seven seasons together to get to that page.

"I wouldn't compare them," said Jackson, who coached both. "I think Kobe's as good as Michael."

I guess Phil Jackson changed his mind huh? He's saying exactly what "Kobe Stans" say....that Kobe's just as good as Jordan so that pretty much makes it a FACT right?

Feel free to cry about it

 

[Rice N Beans]

Because Kobe stans tend to be delusional in thinking Kobe is better than MJ.

It has more to do with the fans/stans than the player.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Yeah, the Jordan stans refuse to recognize a player with inferior skills and achievements as being the best player of all time. Its really pathetic.

It's not only about Kobe with Jordan stans, it's the same with the Lebron comparisons, Kareem comparisons, The Big O comparisons, Magic, Larry etc. it's like that with ANY player compared to Jordan. Kareem has 6 rings, more points, more MVPs, and is the winningest player in the history of the game (IMO) , so this doesn't apply to what you just posted. The players I listed aren't inferior to Jordan but his stans makes everyone inferior when they aren't.

 

[FTBS]

It's all about nikkas living vicariously through people. nikkas actually invest themselves in these nikkas legacies. Once it occured to me "These nikkas couldnt' give less than a fukk about you" I was able to put the shyt into perspective. Think about it...nikkas go back and forth about Kobe and Mike and get all kinds of heated meanwhile these nikkas are good friends. Kobe would at some of the things nikkas say about Mike and Mike would at some of the things nikkas say about Kobe. What is funny is how the cycle continues and you got the Kobe stans repeating the same stuff MJ stans used to say and dismissing the same arguments that used to be made for their lord. From what I hear and read similar shyt happened back in the 80's with Mike and Magic. Looking forward to the next young gun to come up and challenge Bron and see the cycle continue.

 

[YBE]

It's all about nikkas living vicariously through people. nikkas actually invest themselves in these nikkas legacies. Once it occured to me "These nikkas couldnt' give less than a fukk about you" I was able to put the shyt into perspective. Think about it...nikkas go back and forth about Kobe and Mike and get all kinds of heated meanwhile these nikkas are good friends. Kobe would at some of the things nikkas say about Mike and Mike would at some of the things nikkas say about Kobe. What is funny is how the cycle continues and you got the Kobe stans repeating the same stuff MJ stans used to say and dismissing the same arguments that used to be made for their lord. From what I hear and read similar shyt happened back in the 80's with Mike and Magic. Looking forward to the next young gun to come up and challenge Bron and see the cycle continue.

*somewhere in some city in 1987*

"Magic's a team player. He makes everyone around him better and looks to get everyone involved instead of scoring. He can play all 5 positions & he puts up 12-13 assists like its nothing. Jordan's a ball hog man. Taking 25 shots a game and shyt like that..."

Sound familiar?


As far as the bolded. I realized that shyt too. One day back on , I was like, fukk am I doing?

 

[Luke Cage]

It's not only about Kobe with Jordan stans, it's the same with the Lebron comparisons, Kareem comparisons, The Big O comparisons, Magic, Larry etc. it's like that with ANY player compared to Jordan. Kareem has 6 rings, more points, more MVPs, and is the winningest player in the history of the game (IMO) , so this doesn't apply to what you just posted. The players I listed aren't inferior to Jordan but his stans makes everyone inferior when they aren't.

Thats not it at all. I'd be more willing to accept an argument that Kareem the all time leading scorer is better than jordan or big O a dude that averaged a triple double is better, magic and larry even although to a much lesser extent. But Kobe is basically the same kind of player as jordan except he had more help from great teammates and somehow accomplished less in more time. And then i'm supposed to except an argument that claims Kobe is better? at the very least you could say Kobe was equal to MJ.

 

[No1]

Thats not it at all. I'd be more willing to accept an argument that Kareem the all time leading scorer is better than jordan or big O a dude that averaged a triple double is better, magic and larry even although to a much lesser extent. But Kobe is basically the same kind of player as jordan except he had more help from great teammates and somehow accomplished less in more time. And then i'm supposed to except an argument that claims Kobe is better? at the very least you could say Kobe was equal to MJ.

This is why no one takes guys like you seriously. Kobe came into the league at 17 and had an all star in front of him. No one is starting a rookie over an established all star.

But besides that then you bring up that horrible argument about teammates and somehow say you can except Bird and Magic who were walking around with all star teams. You're ridiculous.

 

[Bilz]

It's not only about Kobe with Jordan stans, it's the same with the Lebron comparisons, Kareem comparisons, The Big O comparisons, Magic, Larry etc. it's like that with ANY player compared to Jordan. Kareem has 6 rings, more points, more MVPs, and is the winningest player in the history of the game (IMO) , so this doesn't apply to what you just posted. The players I listed aren't inferior to Jordan but his stans makes everyone inferior when they aren't.

A lot of people have their own opinions when it comes to who the best player is/was. Some of it is stanning but I know a lot of people who think Jordan was the best actually never liked him as a player or a person. Who are the insufferable Jordan stans that people are always referencing in here?

 

[FTBS]

*somewhere in some city in 1987*

"Magic's a team player. He makes everyone around him better and looks to get everyone involved instead of scoring. He can play all 5 positions & he puts up 12-13 assists like its nothing. Jordan's a ball hog man. Taking 25 shots a game and shyt like that..."

Sound familiar?


As far as the bolded. I realized that shyt too. One day back on , I was like, fukk am I doing?

Funny how shyt flips ain't it? Before Mike being a scoring champion and winning were considered mutually exclusive...it was all about being a team guy. Then Mike came along and all of a sudden it's about scoring. Now we'll see if Bron is great enough to change the pardigm once again. I hope so. Then I hope a nikkas comes after him that's even better and so on and so on. I'm to the point now where I'm just rooting for greatness and entertainment. on the legacies of nikkas I don't know. shyt gets spun and revised anyway. I know what I saw and that's all I'm really worried about.

 

[Luke Cage]

This is why no one takes guys like you seriously. Kobe came into the league at 17 and had an all star in front of him. No one is starting a rookie over an established all star.

But besides that then you bring up that horrible argument about teammates and somehow say you can except Bird and Magic who were walking around with all star teams. You're ridiculous.

see this is what kobe stans resort to in order to make a point they pick apart your argument in an irrational way and think they won.

i clearly said that magic and bird have less of a case against Jordan than the other greats i listed. Personally i think MJ is better than them. Still i'm more willing to accept an argument in their case because they're different kinds of players. Meaning it's not as easy to declare MJ's superiority because Magic was clearly a better passer and Bird was easily a better shooter, but with Kobe you have to have a PHD in statistic's to determine who did what better most of the time. And in anycase having good team being the cause of success is natural thing in all team sports. the only reason you think it's a horrible argument is because all you know about playing basketball stems from your experience with nba live 97. nikkas can't cheese fastbreaks all game and win by 30 in real life. FOH

 

[god shamgod]

But the real problem is most kobe haters are just ignorant uneducated males insecure males who grew up without fathers spent hours outside tryin to be like mike then they had to witness a intelligent kid (speaks multiple languages, did well on his SAT) who came from a great family environment come in take the league by storm and be the best player of his generation

The bolded is a sweeping generalization *watched mad bulls games wit my pops as a youngster post*

Lmao @ the underlined you sound like a female.This homo nikka prolly wish he could introduce kobe to his parents

 

[YBE]

This is why no one takes guys like you seriously. Kobe came into the league at 17 and had an all star in front of him. No one is starting a rookie over an established all star.

But besides that then you bring up that horrible argument about teammates and somehow say you can except Bird and Magic who were walking around with all star teams. You're ridiculous.

I hate when people say that. Cleveland was garbage from 1970-2003. You dont get no oreos for starting on that team. And, Chicago, a losing team at that point, was so garbage Magic said he wouldn't have came out of college if the Bulls won the flip toss instead of LA. So, it wasn't exactly alot of competition for Jordan there either.

It's like people really think Kobe couldn't have started on the Hornets, Pacers, Hawks or any of the other 15 or so fringe teams. He just got...

for a few years because the team he went to always had premier players on deck...

 

[FTBS]

I hate when people say that. Cleveland was garbage from 1970-2003. You dont get no oreos for starting on that team. And, Chicago, a losing team at that point, was so garbage Magic said he wouldn't have came out of college if the Bulls won the flip toss instead of LA. So, it wasn't exactly alot of competition for Jordan there either.

It's like people really think Kobe couldn't have started on the Hornets, Pacers, Hawks or any of the other 15 or so fringe teams. He just got...

for a few years because the team he went to always had premier players on deck...

While there is truth in that, nothing about Kobe's rookie year suggest he could have given you 28, 5,5 or 20,5,5 that season. Obviously he ultimately grew as a player but their is no denying that Kobe didn't come in the league at the level that Jordan or even Bron or many other rookies throughout history did. Why do people take such issue with that point? It is what it is. He wasn't that great as a rookie. It has nothing to do with what he became. Beyond that if he had gone to college for a year or two I'm sure he woulda came out the gates smoking. He also woulda been on some basement dwelling franchise because there is no way he drops past 2 or 3 after showing his ass at Duke and likely wouldn't have as many rings though his numbers would be off the charts. I wish that I could go into that alternate reality and see what nikkas would be saying then. A lot of nikkas riding for him wouldn't be fukkin' with him because he wasn't a Laker and the loyalists would be saying shyt like this.

"It's not Kobe's fault he doesn't have rings. He's done all he could do he's won 14 straight scoring titles. He's about to break Kareem's record. Players don't win titles, teams do."

 

[YBE]

While there is truth in that, nothing about Kobe's rookie year suggest he could have given you 28, 5,5 or 20,5,5 that season. Obviously he ultimately grew as a player but their is no denying that Kobe didn't come in the league at the level that Jordan or even Bron or many other rookies throughout history did. Why do people take such issue with that point? It is what it is. He wasn't that great as a rookie. It has nothing to do with what he became. Beyond that if he had gone to college for a year or two I'm sure he woulda came out the gates smoking. He also woulda been on some basement dwelling franchise because there is no way he drops past 2 or 3 after showing his ass at Duke and likely wouldn't have as many rings though his numbers would be off the charts. I wish that I could go into that alternate reality and see what nikkas would be saying then. A lot of nikkas riding for him wouldn't be fukkin' with him because he wasn't a Laker and the loyalists would be saying shyt like this.

"It's not Kobe's fault he doesn't have rings. He's done all he could do he's won 14 straight scoring titles. He's about to break Kareem's record. Players don't win titles, teams do."

I just personally feel Kobe could've started on alot of teams...it was just the Lakers were loaded. I do agree that Lebron came in way more polished then Kobe but, I'm looking at Kemba Walker & Kyrie Irving. If they can come in & put up 12ppg/18.5ppg their rookie years, I'm having a hard time believing the 2nd best SG of all time couldn't fit somewhere within that (closer to Kyrie than Kemba though). He wasn't THAT raw.

Edit: at the thought. Kobe's numbers would be status had he gone to Duke. Imagine if Lebron didn't lose his eligibility & decided to go to Maryland for a year.

 

[FTBS]

I just personally feel Kobe could've started on alot of teams...it was just the Lakers were loaded. I do agree that Lebron came in way more polished then Kobe but, I'm looking at Kemba Walker & Kyrie Irving. If they can come in & put up 12ppg/18.5ppg their rookie years, I'm having a hard time believing the 2nd best SG of all time couldn't fit somewhere within that (closer to Kyrie than Kemba though). He wasn't THAT raw.

Then nikkas wasn't 18 though. His overall career greatness has nothing to do with what he was when he came in as a teenager. He was not ready at the point. All of the of straight outta HS cats needed an incubation period with the exception of Bron which is what made his rookie year so noteworthy.