How come people don't talk about the help lebron has?

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O.T.I.S. said:
And the Heat wasn't handed championships against the Spurs and Pacers last year :bryan:
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um no the pacers and spurs both choked.

spurs had a 5 point lead with 28 seconds and had another shot in game 7.
pacers got blown out in game 7.
bye Felicia.
 
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LeVraiPapi said:
Let's look at Mr No Help having Black Mamba ALpha Male Kobe, y'all

Kobe in the late 90s-early 00s had a team like this

Coach: Phil Jackson (who just won a couple of rings with MJ and tons of experience

D Fisher
Rick Fox
Devean George (defense and 3pt shooter, bigger than Lebron)
Ron Harper
Robert Horry
Glen Rice
John Salley
Brian Shaw
Tyronn Lue (his defense :wow:)

:bryan::bryan::bryan:



Imagine Lebron with a squad like that, during that time the NBA was even weaker. I can't remember Kobe having to take the last shot down the stretch and they hadso many options for the last shot :shaq:



I didn't even throw Shaq in there cuz I can't throw him in there.They had to hack him and he still was the MVP every damn time. If AI were in that team, you would have gotten the same result. Wade got a past prime Shaq and he won a ring with him and got far in the playoffs the first time.

Kobe is the luckiest superstar in the history of the NBA. :lolbron: How can you ride the coat of another superstar so hard to get rings and mention those rings like you led the team to those rings ? :shaq:
Remember when Kobe was requesting a trade cuz he didn't have any other HOFers with him ? :bryan:

Everytime y all throw shade at Bron, Kobe looks even more suspect :yeshrug:
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Shaw, Salley,Rice and Harper were on the downside of their careers when they played for the Lakers. They added little to nothing. Its like a Heat fan talking about the contributions that Juwan Howard brought to the two heat titles. Lakers were a true two man team. They relied heavily on Shaq and Kobe and got little to nothing from everyone else.

LOL @ Devean George. Kill yourself.
Newzz said:
Actually it doesn't.

Shaq was giving Kobe 28.7 ppg on 57.4 TS%, along with 12.7 rebs, 3.7 assts, 2.8 blks, and .6 stls

Wade and Bosh gives LeBron 35.9 ppg on 59.2% TS, along with 11.2 rebs, 5.9 assts, 1.7 blks, and 2.9 stls

:usure:

Besides the fact that Wade is a top 5 SG and on the perimeter while Bosh is a top 5 PF who spreads the defense with his shooting ability, plus he can go inside to the paint and score down there as well makes Wade/Bosh a harder matchup than just having 1 Shaq who could ONLY score in the deep post and could not knock down FTs:

If Shaq's presence alone was all they needed, the Lakers wouldnt have gotten sent home from 97-1999 or in 2003.


Basically, you're acting as if adding 1 Superstar is better than adding 2 Top Tier All-Stars.....and that's not true. LeBron and say healthy Dwight Howard is not better than a team having Kevin Durant, Paul George, and LaMarcus Aldridge with both teams having equal role players imo
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Current Wade and Bosh aren't better than prime Shaq. If this was 09 Wade and Bosh you might have an argument, but even then I would still take Shaq over those 2.
 
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GreatestLaker said:
Current Wade and Bosh aren't better than prime Shaq. If this was 09 Wade and Bosh you might have an argument, but even then I would still take Shaq over those 2.
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How do you explain 2011 Finals? :ohhh:

How do you explain The Heat facing a OKC team with the worst DRTG since the modern era?

Production isn't a direct measure on impact on gameplan/ defense, either.
 
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