How come the founding fathers never anticipated someone pulling a Trump?

[Formerly Black Trash]

I've been saying this for years. Why change or care when they have nothing to fear?

Yup

Technology and law enforcement got too powerful

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Imagine writing that way

It's hard to even read before my brain goes zzzz

We've been conditioned to be lazy with it.

The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses;for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."

With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

That shyt is just masterful. And Lincoln never even went to school either, he learned to write that way on his own. No way in hell a president today could get away with language that poetic and self-reflective and deep in meaning.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Did they think senators and congress would be too moral?

This is really a stupid thread...

You really are a dumb fukk

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

This is really a stupid thread...

You really are a dumb fukk

I'm glad I could make you feel better about yourself

 

[Joe Sixpack]

I'm glad I could make you feel better about yourself

I’m sorry for the insult.

I really am.

But the founders DID see someone like Trump coming..

They never envisioned a complicit Senate letting him do what he wanted

 

[DEAD7]

They did, but powers have been expanded, safeguards and separations eroded... add to that a much more diverse citizenry than anyone could have anticipated and...

 

[MoneyTron]

We've been conditioned to be lazy with it.




That shyt is just masterful. And Lincoln never even went to school either, he learned to write that way on his own. No way in hell a president today could get away with language that poetic and self-reflective and deep in meaning.

"This war is very tremendous, many people dying...on both sides! It's bad. Many people are saying it's the worst. I could end this right now if I wanted. The nasty slaves and abolition people don't want us to win though. But we will win! #MAGA"

Maybe its just not America's time anymore.

 

[EndDomination]

Honestly I think this is what's wrong with a lot of the world today

The rich and politicians dont have to fear violence

Perhaps. In much of the "third world," there is a much thinner wall between the people and the state, which is why their governments so heavily use brutal tactics to crack down on dissent. They realise that "the people" of the state are far more willing to retaliate.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

"When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind."

 

[Secure Da Bag]

"When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind."

 

[the next guy]

We already had a trump like presidency with Andrew Jackson. There should be more then 2 parties right now and there is not.

 

[the next guy]

And if it was clear now, this is the chinese century.

 

[KeysT]

They kinda did

I dont think they saw congress enabling the executive en masse to this degree

Yeah Senators used to have much more pride in the Legislative Branch. Co-Equal branches of government and all you would think they would see their position as just as prestigious as the president and even more so because combined they represent America better than one person could ever. It’s turned into the Republican Party enabling everything though.

 

[KeysT]

You think they anticipated a civil war?

To be honest yes. I think they kicked the can down the road and hoped for the best though. I think They intentionally ignored it in the interest of getting everyone one the same page.

 

[KeysT]

that’s not true the electoral college was specifically created to placate the slave states and then them more of a say than majority states in regards to population

That’s part of the reason it was created. But they also didn’t want a bunch of ignorant, uneducated people choosing the president.

Two for one. I think both of you are right.