How did Liberal(s) become.......

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Communism actually frees you from the chains of the oligarchy. @DEAD7 proves again why he's a dumb fakkit too. Kill yourself.
yeah communism gets a bad rap bc a lot of corrupt leaders, which is bound to happen unless the church is involved,

It's not necessarily bad in theory, it's just not conducive for innovation :yeshrug:
Liberals is a code word for Jews for some neo-nazi's/alt right that is. Same thing with Globalists.

Can't be obvious in your racism anymore brehs, tons of code words outchea. :mjcup:
agreed. It's too obvious
 

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Liberals is a code word for Jews for some neo-nazi's/alt right that is. Same thing with Globalists.

Can't be obvious in your racism anymore brehs, tons of code words outchea. :mjcup:


So are you saying AA's that consider themselves liberals are c00ns that are run by jews?
 

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So are you saying AA's that consider themselves liberals are c00ns that are run by jews?
As I said it's for SOME neo-nazis/alt right. Just recently read an article about some ex neo-nazi explaining this.

They adopted liberals as a code word for them to disguise anti-semitism.

End of the day who gives a shyt what they think?:yeshrug:
 

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Automatically grouped/associated with communists and socialists ......
when the foundation of liberalism is 'freedom':jbhmm:

so technically shouldn't libertarians be considered 'liberal"

And communists/socialists be considered "Conservative"

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I'm not high btw :hubie::whoa:
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If your fundamental belief is "Lliberty"

how would you be considered a "socialist" or "communist" or "left"

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lib·er·ty
ˈlibərdē/
noun
  1. 1.
    the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.
    "compulsory retirement would interfere with individual liberty"
    synonyms: independence, freedom, autonomy, sovereignty, self-government, self-rule, self-determination; More





  2. 2.
    the power or scope to act as one pleases.
    "individuals should enjoy the liberty to pursue their own interests and preferences"
    synonyms: freedom, independence, free rein, license, self-determination, free will, latitude
    "personal liberty"

The "equality" aspect.

Socialism is the logical conclusion those who seek equality in everything.

Total socialism in practice is a horrible failure, but it sounds nice in theory. :hubie:
 

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"Classical Liberalism" started off as Adam Smith's economic liberalism, religious toleration, and removal of legislated social hierarchy. In the 19th century progressive political thinkers in Britain, John Stuart Mill being the most well known, further developed liberalism based on the suffering and misery that economic liberalism brought to the working class. The basic premise was that the government should regulate the economy only so far as necessary to preserve the guarantees of the social contract. Still pro-capitalist, but with labor laws and public education to ensure the liberty of all.

Socialism (as a coherent political ideology) developed around the same time, but in places that lacked the representative political structures that Britain had which allowed it to respond to the problems of industrialization through legislation. Without that representation, workers in France and then Germany began preaching a more extreme version of Mill's progressivism, which sought to eliminate all inequality and all competition. Socialism itself then split into Social Democrats who thought this could be achieved through legislative action (as continental European governments become more representative after the 1848 revolutions). Communists, on the other hand, thought that once you begin working within the "system" then you become corrupted by it, and continue to perpetuate the class inequality that you were trying to solve. Marx, therefore, saw the only way to achieve "Scientific Socialism" was through violent revolution, and that social democrats were just as bad as Classical Liberals.

Mill's "progressive" liberals, then, were fighting for very similar ideas as the Social Democrats, just with slightly different philosophies. Those slight differences have become simplified over time to the point where your average American can't differentiate between a Social Democrat and Communist, let alone a Social Democrat and a Progressive Liberal.
 
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