How did Mercedes fall off so bad?

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to me its:
1.bmw
2.audi
3. merc

bmw reliability has gone up.

and yeah merc diluted their brand. They 100s of fcking variations :russ: like a chicken wing spot with mad different flavors. Who tf got time to cook/eat hennesey Or chocolate flavored fried chicken wings ? :dahell:
:dead: this is so true. I was considering a Benz in 2022 and I just became overwhelmed with all the variations of each model.
 

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Fully Japanese made. Some of their models are built with the cofactory they have with Toyota and they also use Toyota's hybrid system. Only issue with them is their resale value kinda sucks but if you ride your car till the wheels fall off it doesnt matter much..Im looking heavy at the CX-90 being my next wip...
Why do you need something so big
 

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Okay …. So every S class has been a step-down from the previous

But now this stepdown is technologically enabled

Within the previous generation of their line-up they shifted to making the S class only distinguished by the E class and C class by sizing, meaning they went with the 3 different sizes of the same sausage approach

Now here’s the real issue - once they set firm footing in the “we’re not a car company, we’re a luxury brand” they no longer cared to engineer excellence, they instead focused on the brand … illuminated emblems, new entry level models for people to buy the look

Then you end up with people buying a Mercedes for the status symbol rather than any aspect of the vehicle

People that don’t know the model disambiguations

People that couldn’t tell you the difference between a C class, an E class or an S class - if you’re one of these people AND you want a Mercedes, you’re a consumerist sheep and I hope you get hit in the head with the biggest Nike logo

If you don’t know what W124, W140, W220 refer to

If you don’t know the flagship model sedan, if you don’t know all Mercedes sedans are literally living off the derivative of the quality of engineering achieved for the W100- the original S class archetype

then you have no business fawning over a Mercedes, and if you are I hope you get yourself a dilapidated model of yesteryear and run your finances into the ground trying to maintain a money pit past it’s time of glory

I have a W220 (last design of Bruno Sacco, and the epitome of money pit car, the

The battery is dead

The battery is in the trunk

The trunk will not open without power

This car was not made to last into a second decade many of the materials of their flagship model have weathered and degraded, completely dilapidated

It is a planned obsolescence car - this cad is of no value to someone who is getting it a decade after its prime

The W100 (The 600) was a car on hydropneumatic suspension, hydraulic windows … a tank that could survive a nuclear blast and a literal Rolls Royce competitor, the next flagship model that descended from it was a W124 (SEL) was toned down from the high mark of Rolls Royce competitor status, but still a car with a bulletproof engine that was meant to stand the test of time. Many of them still on the road

Then the W140 began to set in the sensor actuated trend - this means mechanical engineering takes a backseat to technological engineering, it means mechanical engineering is mitigated by technological engineering. Your transmission is in perfect working mechanical condition … but you’d never know that because that critical part of your vehicle’s drivetrain is actuated by a sensor that has a 15-20 year shelf life, in best conditions

Then the millennial W220 came in and sealed the deal. The car is technologically encumbered by sensors that have a shelf life that pales in comparison to the mechanical aspects



This is the definitive post of this thread. I’ve been studying this since I was 6 years old

If you like Mercedes. Get yourself a classic find a good mechanic and/or (preferably) develop an enthusiasm for automotive mechanics

If you want the newest model make sure you have your biggest Nike logo t-shirt and be the consumer that you were coded to be :yeshrug:
 

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:dead: this is so true. I was considering a Benz in 2022 and I just became overwhelmed with all the variations of each model.

Try to learn from this rather than taking it personally, if you do learn from this you will save yourself well over six figures in your lifetime:


If you’re this kind of person then you’re getting a car for appearances at most and a car really shouldn’t be in your top five expenses in life at all like you should figure out what you actually want to spend your money on because it’s a big reflection on who you are and if you’re willing to let a car that you know, nothing about beer second biggest expense in your life after your house, you really have no business doing that

I could’ve been eight years old and I would’ve known exactly what car I wanted and any dealership

There is literally an eight year-old kid somewhere near you that knows more about cars than you. If you don’t know what model that you want from that specific make if you don’t know the history of those models just just go get something else. Get yourself a battery pack on wheels
 

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Try to learn from this rather than taking it personally, if you do learn from this you will save yourself well over six figures in your lifetime:


If you’re this kind of person then you’re getting a car for appearances at most and a car really shouldn’t be in your top five expenses in life at all like you should figure out what you actually want to spend your money on because it’s a big reflection on who you are and if you’re willing to let a car that you know, nothing about beer second biggest expense in your life after your house, you really have no business doing that

I could’ve been eight years old and I would’ve known exactly what car I wanted and any dealership

There is literally an eight year-old kid somewhere near you that knows more about cars than you. If you don’t know what model that you want from that specific make if you don’t know the history of those models just just go get something else. Get yourself a battery pack on wheels

fukk off. It’s my money.
 
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You do realize Mercedes/bmw over in Europe are closer to GM/Ford over here with better interiors right? Vw is Honda in Europe, they just decided to go completely upmarket here in the states. We rarely get any diesel models from any of those brands here but over there those engines are absolute workhorses that get Europeans around town economically. They lean a lot harder on diesel (and more recently EV’s).
Diesel is 6.79 in Reno nv
 

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Living in a nice area now, I think more people are realizing luxury cars are stupid. Go for efficiency. Electric/hybrid cars are a lot more popular here now and show more sophistication/class. I think Tesla overall took a lot of drivers.

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That is basically exactly what I see everyday at most houses.


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Mercedes used to be a status symbol. Now they got cheap cars that aren’t made all that well.

Plus everyone has a Mercedes now. There’s nothing exclusive about it. Just pay $1000 a month while living in your moms house, and you too can have a Benz.


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So chinese cars are the new wave? Is pretty easy getting them here in Panamá
 
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