How did pro life/choice get political?

[EndDomination]

Has to be more to it.

If the republicans are the main ones complaining about single mothers laying up having babies out of wedlock, then collecting public assistance, they should champion pro choice.

Would kill off their Christian-majority constituency.
As long as you’re pro-gun, anti-choice, you can retain popularity with a significant population.
Look at the rapist in Alabama, Roy Moore.
He had a strong fighting chance just off of those two things.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

The rise of feminism along with the rise in evangelicalism led to a crash course in ideals.

 

[JackRoss]

You cant tell bytches what to do with they coochie

 

[kenreid0726eabos]

Serious question.

Im pro choice. But i also believe that if a woman wants to have an abortion, thats her choice. I believe both can and should be able to coexist peacefully.

How did we get to where this has become a political debate?

Abortion is a very sensitive topic

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Any polarizing social issue will be used strategically to sway votes in one party’s favor... doesn’t mean they actual believe in the stance personally..........

 

[Gold]

Politics is more of a religion than religion is.
Everything that can be polarized in any way shape or form is going to be a political issue.

This is why I always say that political loyalty inherently makes people stupider.
People playing mental gymnastics to defend their political parties on stance, people dropping all their values just to make sure they tow the party line.


I'm just here watching the double, triple, and quadruple standards people apply to situations just to satiate some desire to be in lockstep with some old white brehs on both sides of the isle

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

it always has been

 

[Lamar Givens]

Serious question.

I'm pro choice. But i also believe that if a woman wants to have an abortion, thats her choice. I believe both can and should be able to coexist peacefully.

How did we get to where this has become a political debate?

Pro life and pro choice cannot coexist peacefully being that abortion is not just a social issue but it is highly moral as well.

If you hold the belief that human life is sacred then you should also feel some type of way about women murdering their children in the womb for convenience. And, before somebody jumps in an uses the medically necessary narrative, it has been researched heavily that less than 5 percent of abortions are necessary with regard to medical complications.

Abortin is about convenience. My grandmother died from one when they were illegal (back alley). She had the abortion because she couldn't keep her legs closed and couldn't stop sleeping with married men.

If a mother should be allowed to kill her child in the womb then you shouldn't have a problem with a mom who wants to drown her children in the tub after their birth.

You can't have it both ways.

 

[Wildhundreds]

Pro life and pro choice cannot coexist peacefully being that abortion is not just a social issue but it is highly moral as well.

If you hold the belief that human life is sacred then you should also feel some type of way about women murdering their children in the womb for convenience. And, before somebody jumps in an uses the medically necessary narrative, it has been researched heavily that less than 5 percent of abortions are necessary with regard to medical complications.

Abortin is about convenience. My grandmother died from one when they were illegal (back alley). She had the abortion because she couldn't keep her legs closed and couldn't stop sleeping with married men.

If a mother should be allowed to kill her child in the womb then you shouldn't have a problem with a mom who wants to drown her children in the tub after their birth.

You can't have it both ways.

Yes you can definitely have it both ways.

1st off morals start at home.

Republicans talked all this "morals" BS, but they're the main ones in the me too gang and infidelity crew.

Its not anyones job to place their morals on another person. If someones else immorality creeps into another persons personal space, then thats a problem.

Like i said, too many preventative measures in place to consider getting pregnant as a accident.

 

[L&HH]

it’s a mix between wanting to control women and just a simple wedge issue for the elite on the right to keep the religious vote. most of the elite on the right probably don’t really give a shyt. hell they’ve probably paid for their mistresses abortions multiple times over.

Tim Murphy

Pro-Life Rep. Tim Murphy Pressured Mistress to Get Abortion
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...tim-murphy-pressured-mistress-to-get-abortion

This is a byproduct of our antiquated political system. Mainly the way we vote (first past the post) leads to there only being 2 viable political parties. When there's only 2 parties it brings about polarization on relatively meaningless issues.

Blame the single issue voters and the conservatives who exploit them.

 

[Lamar Givens]

Yes you can definitely have it both ways.

1st off morals start at home.

Republicans talked all this "morals" BS, but they're the main ones in the me too gang and infidelity crew.

Its not anyones job to place their morals on another person. If someones else immorality creeps into another persons personal space, then thats a problem.

Like i said, too many preventative measures in place to consider getting pregnant as a accident.

Morality is not subjective it is objective.

Speaking about what politicians are doing in their bedrooms with regards to policy making on abortion is the fallacy of special pleading with regards to abortion policy.

As I said before, if it is okay for a woman to kill her child in the womb then it should not be a problem for a mom to drown her kids in the bathtub outside of the womb.

 

[Wildhundreds]

As I said before, if it is okay for a woman to kill her child in the womb then it should not be a problem for a mom to drown her kids in the bathtub outside of the womb.

Your example is invalid because the debate on when life begins has not been settled/agreed upon.

If we go by your reasoning, a pregnant woman that drinks while pregnant can lose her baby. Do you charge her with involuntary manslaughter?

 

[Lamar Givens]

Your example is invalid because the debate on when life begins has not been settled/agreed upon.

If we go by your reasoning, a pregnant woman that drinks while pregnant can lose her baby. Do you charge her with involuntary manslaughter?

My example is not invalid. The entire abortion debate centers on opinion/belief of when life begins.

A person can be charged with double murder for killing a pregnant woman.

Yes, I believe life begins at conception and if a woman drinks while pregnant knowingly and causes harm to the baby she should be held accountable. If a person kills a pregnant woman while driving drunk they should be charged with double manslaughter.

Abortion has always been about convenience.

As I said before and will say again. You can't have it both ways.

 

[get these nets]

Serious question.

Im pro choice. But i also believe that if a woman wants to have an abortion, thats her choice. I believe both can and should be able to coexist peacefully.

How did we get to where this has become a political debate?

??? Pro choice BUT Pro Choice???


just jokes

Topic became politicized with Roe V Wade in 1973. Brought the conversation out into the public for the first time.

 

[Wildhundreds]

My example is not invalid. The entire abortion debate centers on opinion/belief of when life begins.

A person can be charged with double murder for killing a pregnant woman.

Yes, I believe life begins at conception and if a woman drinks while pregnant knowingly and causes harm to the baby she should be held accountable. If a person kills a pregnant woman while driving drunk they should be charged with double manslaughter.

Abortion has always been about convenience.

As I said before and will say again. You can't have it both ways.

Man you just pointed out the hypocrisy of pro choice people.

The same person that says they're pro choice and life doesnt start until they're out the womb, would be the same person who would push for double manslaughter if a drunk driver killed a pregnant woman.

So yeah, the abortion rights debate is a fallacy.