How Did Vietnam Become the Largest Nation Without Coronavirus Deaths?

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How Did Vietnam Become the Largest Nation Without Coronavirus Deaths?



It is hard for outsiders to verify official data, though health experts say Vietnam headed off a full-blown calamity because of its drastic and early action. The government was hyper-aware of the threat to hospital and quarantine capacity... Vietnam saw the disease as a threat early on, treating its first patient in January and proceeding to contact trace and restrict movement. Timing was critical because of the virus' ability to spread exponentially. The Ho Chi Minh City government said, for instance, that for every 300 people infected, 84,000 people had to quarantine. It is likely that Vietnam did not have to cover up mass infections and deaths because it acted before the virus could reach that point...

In addition to national coordination, targeted testing and isolation, Vietnam can decree measures regardless of public debate, like tapping a national security network to monitor the physical and virtual space... On one hand, Vietnam used fines and takedown orders to curb the spread of false information about the virus, as have other nations. On the other hand, the controls continue a history of censorship of information that the Southeast Asian government considers unfavorable.

Social media allowed some false information to spread in Vietnam, but also greatly heightened people's awareness of the virus and what they should do, concluded a study by 11 authors published in April in Sustainability, a science journal. Vietnam's success, they said, came from "mobilizing citizens' awareness of disease prevention without spreading panic, via fostering genuine cooperation between government, civil society and private individuals."
 

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By cooking the books and not classifying certain conditions as COVID related
Oh and by employing their cyber force to spread "good news" stories and to quash any doubters online

Their testing kits cost $1 or less and they moved swiftly

This is just western incompetence trying to shift blame for it's failures.

Italy has the same population size and you saw how that panned out.

:lolbron:
 

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By cooking the books and not classifying certain conditions as COVID related
Oh and by employing their cyber force to spread "good news" stories and to quash any doubters online

The part about cooking the books: I used to think this about Germany. Their numbers seemed too good to be true and there were similar comments from people living there. Than their excess deaths numbers got out, and it was in line with previous years, somewhat higher than the average but less than two previous years.

Now I think that despite all the books cooking, an epidemics gone out of control cannot be hidden in the modern world, despite any possible censorship. It is too visible in the hospitals and in the cemeteries. People notice and the government at the end has to admit it, like in China...

And if an epidemic has been kept in control, it means the country has done a good job.
 

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One of my best friends was in Vietnam starting in January, and hes still currently there. At first, he actually rented a place where the person who was last there had COVID, so they put him in this high school place for like two weeks with other people, and their government made sure nobody left (he didnt even have it.) It was actually funny, because he told us that it was mostly white bros that were in this place with him and it was like a frat house essentially. This past month especially, hes posting snapchats all day and it seems all he does is hit the water and go to bars.. Vietnam is legit in that their quality of life at this time, is very good..
 

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Yeah they couldn’t have possibly had a good response

I've been to Vietnam. Have you?
The part about cooking the books: I used to think this about Germany. Their numbers seemed too good to be true and there were similar comments from people living there. Than their excess deaths numbers got out, and it was in line with previous years, somewhat higher than the average but less than two previous years.

Now I think that despite all the books cooking, an epidemics gone out of control cannot be hidden in the modern world, despite any possible censorship. It is too visible in the hospitals and in the cemeteries. People notice and the government at the end has to admit it, like in China...

And if an epidemic has been kept in control, it means the country has done a good job.

If the doctors aren't saying the deaths/hospitalizations are COVID related, then those numbers aren't properly captured
 

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Yeah they couldn’t have possibly had a good response

I've been to Vietnam, have you?

Judging by the upkeep of their electric, communication, and sanitation infrastructure--I'd be HIGHLY surprised if their medical disaster response capability is truly better than 99% of the world:unimpressed:
 

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I've been in Vietnam too. 5 Days in Dec. 2018. I was only in Hanoi and a surrounding town. I didn't make it to Ho Chi Minh City. I saw sites similar to a lot of places in Southeast Asia where there are a lot of dusty roads and a lot of dirt and grime that you would see in many developing nations.

That's why when I heard that they were one of the leaders in containing the spread of covid-19, I was literally shocked. I would have assumed that they would have been on par with the rest of the world, or realistically even worse considering that they're a developing nation.

I know some people over there though that have no actual reason to lie to me or to defend that country, and they're saying that pretty much the reports that are being put out are legit.

They just took it more seriously than we did over here in the USA. A lot of times Vietnam gets compared to Thailand by people that are familiar with that region. I recall reading once that in comparison to Thais, the Vietnamese are more ambitious. Perhaps somebody that has spent more time in Vietnam can verify if this is true or not.
 

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Even if they are cooking books than we prob got 300k actual deaths in America. Do I literally think it’s zero ? No but do I think they have a good response one of the best ? Yes . Lol at Germany they’re a first world country and not authoritarian , what reason would there be to suspect them ? Y’all seriously have to lay off the cia propaganda like America is trustworthy at all :mjlol:
 
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