How Did Vietnam Become the Largest Nation Without Coronavirus Deaths?

[Eternal Tecate]

cus they think rationally. they're communist and atheist.

 

[bnew]

what the mongolians did is impressive and cold at the same time.
they basically closed the border and ban flights when it started popping off all over the world. They left their people stranded in other countries

no aid, no nothing for those stranded in february and march. . they have no reported deaths of ethnic Mongolians.


The Genghis Khan Factor: Mongolia Is A Coronavirus Bright Spot

One country reporting no deaths is Mongolia, which has only 213 confirmed cases. What is unusual about Mongolia is that none of the victims were ethnic Mongolians, but Han Chinese, according to Dr, Chinburen Jigjidsuren, a special health adviser to the prime minister.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I mean, if Cuba could have a good response why not Vietnam?

 

[Tommy Knocks]

what the mongolians did is impressive and cold at the same time.
they basically closed the border and ban flights when it started popping off all over the world. They left their people stranded in other countries

no aid, no nothing for those stranded in february and march. . they have no reported deaths of ethnic Mongolians.


The Genghis Khan Factor: Mongolia Is A Coronavirus Bright Spot

yea countries that border china like Vietnam and Mongolia hit that travel ban QUICK.

I was surprised I was able to fly into Manila march 11th, but by the March 18th. That shyt was LOCKED. no one in no one out. I think they were allowing all the chinese workers to jump ship in 2 weeks asap or theyll be stranded here. All the chinese on my floor bailed, but my building is still 80% chinese. They set up a cold ass efficient food system and managed to open a store just for chinese supplies next door. I was jealous

basically, some lady in one of our condos makes food for everyone and has a private driver buy supplies. that same driver/van supplies the store next door. It took about a month for them nikkas to start sharing with other foreigners. That kinda left a bad taste in my mouth, but once I finally got my beers I forgot about it

 

[Mr Rager]

So let's look margin of the error first. When reporting all information all governments when accounting for even death there will be a margin of error made. Two or three deaths probably have been misclassified. That's fair to any government or anybody collecting or reporting large amounts of complex information.

Culture wise Vietnamese, just like Japanese, South Korea's, Taiwanese and the Chinese are masks wearing culture. Anyone that has been there for some time knows that off the top of their dome. They wear a mask to the point where it is fashionable and anyone not wearing a mask will get peer pressured into automatically. That's why I asked if you stayed there for some time.

Second again Vietnam during SARS they brag about it a lot how they eventually tackled SARS well. Again something someone would know if they stayed there for a good amount of time it's like folklore to them. It was one of the first countries to tackle it and get it right even though they got hit hard at the beginning.

Third, they followed the exact same protocols that a number of Asian countries did. During the lunar year which as you would know is celebrated in Vietnam, schools were closed. During that, they shut shyt down. Schools and a number of things. At the time my Vietnamese friend was angry but now it in hindsight was the right call.

Fourth nobody trusts anything the Chinese in China say. Every single neighbouring country around China knows China well. That's they closed boards damn near in January to China. Vietnamese don't trust the Chinese. That's something you can't read about.

Fifth, anyone that stayed their know the healthcare is not the best but damn near everyone is covered and insured. They listen to what the government says when it comes to health matters.

Six this is connected to the fourth point. Those are deep-rooted thoughts nobody has weighted more Vietnamese cultures than Chinese culture. Anything china says they automatically suspicious. Anyone that has been their know Vietnamese don't like Chinese or China, they are tolerated!

Yes, obviously people in Asia where masks frequently which should make you wonder, if the masks were so effective how did COVID spread so quickly even in 'mask wearing' countries like Korea and Japan? The masks clearly aren't the preventative measure that you're portraying them to be.

You didn't address my point about Vietnamese doctors not labeling Corona-related symptoms as COVID.

Clearly Vietnam is smaller than the US so it makes some sense that they could contain the virus quicker than the US could, but to say that they responded better than MOST of the world, KNOWING that the healthcare system in Vietnam is less developed than say, Korea or Japan's? It doesn't seem to add up.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Everybody is lying about their covid #s

Except the US

The US is lying too

Florida and Texas are cooking their numbers...the only reason it is allowed to slide is because they have GOP governors and an idiot in the WH

 

[MrRDU]

The US is lying too

Of course

 

[barese]

Lol at Germany they’re a first world country and not authoritarian , what reason would there be to suspect them ?

Back in March and April there were rumors that Germans might have been classifying covid deaths differently, and that only some of the states were transmitting the data to the federal government, and that national statistics were lacking...

It doesn't even need to be deliberate...
Or it could be for economics purposes...

UK is also a first world non authoritarian country and their difference is significant: official covid deaths are 43k,while excess deaths are 65k... So something is probably lacking in the official statistics...

 

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Yes, obviously people in Asia where masks frequently which should make you wonder, if the masks were so effective how did COVID spread so quickly even in 'mask wearing' countries like Korea and Japan? The masks clearly aren't the preventative measure that you're portraying them to be.

You didn't address my point about Vietnamese doctors not labeling Corona-related symptoms as COVID.

Clearly Vietnam is smaller than the US so it makes some sense that they could contain the virus quicker than the US could, but to say that they responded better than MOST of the world, KNOWING that the healthcare system in Vietnam is less developed than say, Korea or Japan's? It doesn't seem to add up.

First point address I address, it was margin of error is about the doctors.

I was coming back from China when the virus broke and traveled to Taiwan and Japan before Chinese New Year. Taiwan made me fill out a form and questioned me for 20 to 25 minutes about the places I visited, places I stayed and even restaurants I visited. It was an extremely meticulous procedure. Landing in Japan no questions were asked! Not one question this was late January early February. I told them I had been in China and Taiwan repeatedly before coming there and they asked no follow up questions, zero!

It's simple a matter of procedure. For Japanese and South Korea. Japan didn't put in a number of a procedure until later as they feared backlash from China. Japan still doesn't have proper procedures in place but mask have saved them.

Vietnam overreacted just like Taiwan did. They locked shyt down, not talking a back home you can do this or that, an absolute lockdown!

I also address the Vietnamese healthcare problem as well, don't need to address it again. They have done a fine job, it's not fair to a country that has battles SARS, H1N1 that is battle tested with outbreaks to be the outright dismissive of how they handled the situation.

Their numbers are correct, give them the respect they deserve.