Uncle Kingpin
No Relation
Shares are good but they usually make it so you cant divest any time soon so by the time you can, the shares have been diluted and are worth pennies on the dollar
How exactly did Puffy make a half a billion?
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thephatmack
Pro
Yeap - back when Badboy was selling records there was proper money to be made.
How he got the badboy label is up for discussion though!
Sean John was also pretty succesful and many people wore it. It was classier than the other hophop brands for a while.
These days the old buisness model would not have worked because albums that sold 1 mill would sell 50k.
However he made the money then and now had the capital to diversify with the market.
How he got the badboy label is up for discussion though!
Sean John was also pretty succesful and many people wore it. It was classier than the other hophop brands for a while.
These days the old buisness model would not have worked because albums that sold 1 mill would sell 50k.
However he made the money then and now had the capital to diversify with the market.
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
Sean john and ciroc. Its kind of like jordan and his nike deal. Even though they dont own the brand because the sales are so high the profit sharing is netting them close to if not more than 100 million a year.
LandryFieldsDad
All Star
By being a snake
He owns the right to receive half if ciroqs profit without actually taking any monetary risk..
I.e. He's in a million time better position than the owners in the short run (if ciroq failed he'd not lose a dime if they win he gets half the profit) and he's probably invested in it as well. Now in the long run ie a sale, the owner will probably profit more than him. But maybe not more than he already has profited up until that day.
And don't forget that he owns a tv network.
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He has % in publishing/royalties/shares in EVERYTHING he does. He's not stupid.
Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
Does Diddy really get four dollars per Ciroq bottle sold?
Bad boy in its hey day had a good run. From what we've seen he saw most of the proceeds rather then his artist. Then there's the publishing. Wasn't he claiming production credits as well? What he was smart at doing was promoting Biggie as one of the greatest if not the greatest. The public and media has bought into that and he continues to profit from that to this day. Just imagine how much biggie is sampled by others. Mase sold alot records over there too. His clothing line did well. I can't front, they had some nice clothes. I speak in past tense because I don't know if it's still poppin' or not.
Bad boy in its hey day had a good run. From what we've seen he saw most of the proceeds rather then his artist. Then there's the publishing. Wasn't he claiming production credits as well? What he was smart at doing was promoting Biggie as one of the greatest if not the greatest. The public and media has bought into that and he continues to profit from that to this day. Just imagine how much biggie is sampled by others. Mase sold alot records over there too. His clothing line did well. I can't front, they had some nice clothes. I speak in past tense because I don't know if it's still poppin' or not.
GollyImGully
Too many wavy women, gotta log outta IG
by being all up in the videos
Uncle Kingpin
No Relation
"Profit" is subject to the accounting, and trust me there is no way Diageo is actually giving diddy 50%. He took a failing vodka made from grapes to a national brand, and he should have ownership. they gave him a 50/50 ownership deal on a tequila called deleon, but i doubt they will allow it to be anywhere near as big as ciroc. 50 cent showed yall the blueprint with vitamin water, why make a few million as a paid spokesman when you can make a hundred million as an owner.And as far as REvolt, that shyt is a money pit and wont make a profit anytime soon. Ask Oprah.
Formerly known as...
Collector
I don't think Puff is thinking short run with Revolt, in fact money might not even be his main objective. He's making history and building his rep which indirectly leads to more money.
And as far as REvolt, that shyt is a money pit and wont make a profit anytime soon. Ask Oprah.
All reports say that he's getting 50% of the profits unless you have some support for this not being true, I don't know why you would claim it.
As far as ownership, we don't know if he owns anything or not. And as far as 50 with Vitamin water, if Puff keeps on making 30-40 million per year of ciroq for the next 10 years he'll have made more. And if the contract is forever, he'll obviously make more as long as the brand is successful. 50 however, cleared his 100 million (and won't ever get a single dime from it) and he also took a financial risk by investing a few million or whatever. Puff has not taken any risk, he's just getting the upside. And you can't compare investing in a small vitamin water company with investing in distilleries that produces millions of bottles for international distribution.
I don't know about you but I'd rather have the chance to make half a billion by not investing a dime than investing millions and having the same chance to maybe make a bit more. But then again risk management is what I consider first.
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Tommy Knocks
retired
Man that Fif deal was luck and timing. I read an article on that piece...man...he made so much damn money on a failing brand. He pretty much gave it life, put in shares, so when coca cola bought it, he made over 150 million over night. It reminds me of David Choe and Facebook.
I'm currently reading this article on JayZ and Ace of Spades. I didn't know he was the one that turned a house wine into the most expensive champagne you can buy at a club. I was in Shanghai and I asked them what was the most expensive bottle they had and they showed me an Ace of Spade. I thought that shyt was ancient, some connoisseur champagne...turns out they were a no name brand until JayZ mentioned it Show Me What You Got back in 2006.
http://hyuninc.com/post/4030902219/banned-jay-z-ace-of-spades-article
Since is a small family business there's no shares to buy, but apparently he makes 50 split off each bottle. cashing in at 50 mil a year. That family owes him their lives. Cristal has been on a decline ever since.
It's still risky to do what Fif did tho (Puff and Jay went the safest route) I agree with Harry B . It works for artists that are the hottest thing at the time, but if you're just an artist, it might not work, look how Pharells liquor flopped. Also now a days things get old fast. Sells on a drink might sore for 2 years and then bam, no one mentions it. Puff worked over time to get ciroc, put that shyt in everyones hands, but he has the power and alliances to do that, and MAINTAIN it at the level. JayZ was the CEO of Def Jam at the time...he had more than enough influence, even behind the scene with 'suits' eating it up. Now you got rich ballers all over the world buying that champagne and apparently in France it was a no name, average wine LOL.