How is Jay-Z a better artist than Biggie when he ain't go no albums better than Biggie's albums?

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Because he didnt get killed at age 24.

i love Biggie and think he's the GREATEST MC ever but Jay is a damn good MC with 20+ years of consistency as a top rapper. At some point the cumulative effect of Jays records outshines 2 great albums.
 

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yeah we know their history, but you flat out said Jay wouldn't have existed, which is false.


Big was the first one to get signed. He took Jay under his wing doing shows together. It's hard to say what would've happened if Big never put him in the spotlight. That's why Jay always mentions him on songs and gives him the respect.
 

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Hell you can pick at least two albums of Jay that are equal to if not better than LAD...I hate comparing rappers with careers cut short to those that lived long
 

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Big was the first one to get signed. He took Jay under his wing doing shows together. It's hard to say what would've happened if Big never put him in the spotlight. That's why Jay always mentions him on songs and gives him the respect.

again, you're not telling me what I don't already know, but what you initially said doesn't match with your argument points.

You said jay wouldn't have existed without big. Nah, jay would have. Now have you had said kane, sure, I'd believe that..but Jay would have been here regardless of big. Would he be in the same spot he's in now, maybe, maybe not.
 

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Bruh ain't got 1 album better than Biggie's 2 albums yet some people be like he's the better artist:dwillhuh:

Vocally, Biggie is better
Storytelling wise, Biggie is better
Versatility (from writing street songs to retrospective songs to club songs) in songwriting, Biggie is better
Albums, Biggie has better albums.

Jay's best albums don't even compare to Biggie's albums.

RD, cool album but vastly overrated
The Blueprint; this album is a classic but honestly, the most impressive thing about it is the production
The Black Album, lyrically Jay is nice on it, but a lot of the production doesn't sound as good it use too

And for as good as American Gangster is, even that doesn't compare to Biggie's albums

Biggie forever changed the game, that brother is like the Jimi Hendrix of Hip Hop.
Reasonable Doubt is an exceptional album Breh. You can’t just dismiss it like that :russ:
But I agree that RTD and LAD are better than any Jay album. Both album changed the game more than BP as well.
 

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In what world is The Blueprint not a game change album.
In the world of make believe, lol.

Jay-z aint got nothing fukkin with LAD, imo...but Jay-z is/was a better rapper than Biggie to me, :hubie: . Not by much tho, Biggie, skills wise, is one of the elites.

This can only be a "Skills" conversation though because once it leaves that category it's a silly discussion, Biggie had a 3 year career. Speaking of skills, just rap skills, there are rappers greater than Biggie and Jay-z...but that's another topic.
 

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again, you're not telling me what I don't already know, but what you initially said doesn't match with your argument points.

You said jay wouldn't have existed without big. Nah, jay would have. Now have you had said kane, sure, I'd believe that..but Jay would have been here regardless of big. Would he be in the same spot he's in now, maybe, maybe not.


You're right, my fault.
 

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Nobody is better than Biggie. End of discussion
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