CashmereThoughts
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I just want to hear the story of how the fukk push found that blackface pic. that to me is what really made aubrey look like a straight bozo
How is Pusha T able to do what Meek Mill couldn't do?
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Meek put all those skits in his diss song which made it unlistenable.
If you actually listen to “I wanna know” meek was exposing drake for being a wimp.
Back to back was just Drake trolling on Meek for dating a woman.
If you actually listen to “I wanna know” meek was exposing drake for being a wimp.
Back to back was just Drake trolling on Meek for dating a woman.
T'Challa Trillmonger
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meek did that, so hopefully push didn't have to go thru that
on the real tho, push just learned from the meek battle to play to the social media era, went with the exposal angle coupled with the bars, hence "drug dealing aside, ghostwriting aside"
drake has contingency plans to offset the main shot against him in the ghostwriting fiasco, so push went the TMZ route (no shade) because that caters more to the casuals who can swing the mainstream narrative of who "won" the battle
on the real tho, push just learned from the meek battle to play to the social media era, went with the exposal angle coupled with the bars, hence "drug dealing aside, ghostwriting aside"
drake has contingency plans to offset the main shot against him in the ghostwriting fiasco, so push went the TMZ route (no shade) because that caters more to the casuals who can swing the mainstream narrative of who "won" the battle
ReasonableMatic
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Guvnor
Da Speculative Spectacle®
Meek's track was structured all wrong and just wasn't good enough. I mean why put the reference track in the track? It had no replay value and didn't hit hard.
If he dropped a track like War Pain first then we would be talking.
If he dropped a track like War Pain first then we would be talking.
ALonelyDad
Veteran
Meek had Nicki connected to him, and there were always talks of how Drake and Nicki made him jealous. Drake took shots at that, and then Drake also called himself a singing guy. Duppy wasn't a bad song, it's just how Pusha attacked him that he made it completely irrelevant.
Meek made us wait a damn week, just for that poor response where you couldn't hear shyt.
Pusha could have just released the black face pics and he still would have won. He was way more calculated, has less baggage, and is just a better rapper.
Meek made us wait a damn week, just for that poor response where you couldn't hear shyt.
Pusha could have just released the black face pics and he still would have won. He was way more calculated, has less baggage, and is just a better rapper.
truth is, the general public doesn’t care about the culture - meaning whether someone is authentic or not, writes their own lyrics etc. didn’t matter to them..
We’re in an era where a 9 year old Asian kid can be coached to act ignorant ON CAMERA, get exposed breaking character and STILL have life..
An entire mixtape of reference tracks could have leaked and nobody would have cared. Authenticity unfortunately does not matter anymore..
Think about it.. people put more weight into meek being on “his girls tour” and Nicki potentially telling Meek that they were “better as friends” than they did a nikka not writing the very songs he’s performing.
What the public does cares about these days is love and hip hop type drama and gossip. Twitter memes..
Pusha attacked Drake with exactly that, and it ended with a flawless victory
We’re in an era where a 9 year old Asian kid can be coached to act ignorant ON CAMERA, get exposed breaking character and STILL have life..
An entire mixtape of reference tracks could have leaked and nobody would have cared. Authenticity unfortunately does not matter anymore..
Think about it.. people put more weight into meek being on “his girls tour” and Nicki potentially telling Meek that they were “better as friends” than they did a nikka not writing the very songs he’s performing.
What the public does cares about these days is love and hip hop type drama and gossip. Twitter memes..
Pusha attacked Drake with exactly that, and it ended with a flawless victory
the reason is because wanna know was fukkin trash. putting the QM reference track into wanna know just ruined the entire flow of the song. not to mention meek sounded like trash and his voice was not clear. compare it to the story of adonis, where pusha straight up rapping, his voice is clear as fuk and you know exactly what he is saying. plus the bars on the story of adonis are way more hard hitting.
wtf? drake literally has had the #1 spot on the Hot 100 for 17 out of 24 weeks this year. if you count it from when gods plan came out, hes had the #1 spot 17 out of 19 weeks. not to mention other top 5-20 hits like diplomatic immunity, yes indeed, look alive, i'm upset, walk it like i talk it....
people were already siding with drake when duppy dropped. most people thought it was over, pusha t became pusha l. but pusha was actually able to drop a great track, where even drake stans can't deny it
wtf? drake literally has had the #1 spot on the Hot 100 for 17 out of 24 weeks this year. if you count it from when gods plan came out, hes had the #1 spot 17 out of 19 weeks. not to mention other top 5-20 hits like diplomatic immunity, yes indeed, look alive, i'm upset, walk it like i talk it....
people were already siding with drake when duppy dropped. most people thought it was over, pusha t became pusha l. but pusha was actually able to drop a great track, where even drake stans can't deny it
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No the difference is he fukked Drake up.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
I don't think meek was expecting there to even be a battle.
the hip-hop community was supposed to take drake to task for ghostwriting, but instead they took meek to task and made him rush out an incomplete diss track while on the road, because drake dropped one(which was a dud).
then drake suddenly comes back with the "back to back" - which was obviously ghostwritten, and nobody even allows meek to come out the corner with a 2nd track, or even the full version of the first one.
the whole thing was bullchit. I don't even consider it a battle.
I pretty much gave up on any chance of a hip-hop resurgence at that point and could care less if the genre disappears. that was the day rap was officially taking off life support. they pulled the plug with that one.
the hip-hop community was supposed to take drake to task for ghostwriting, but instead they took meek to task and made him rush out an incomplete diss track while on the road, because drake dropped one(which was a dud).
then drake suddenly comes back with the "back to back" - which was obviously ghostwritten, and nobody even allows meek to come out the corner with a 2nd track, or even the full version of the first one.
the whole thing was bullchit. I don't even consider it a battle.
I pretty much gave up on any chance of a hip-hop resurgence at that point and could care less if the genre disappears. that was the day rap was officially taking off life support. they pulled the plug with that one.
TheBoyDuddus
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Meek was not prepared.
blankstairz
Superstar
Meek didn't really care. Looking back, it didn't hurt his career either. His appeal is as strong as ever. Plus, Meek aint that kind of rapper. His style of rap is more energy and getting people hype.
Pusha's whole career depended on this. A respected lyricist (and ghostwriter
) for much of his career, but not the props from mainstream. He has taken a backseat his whole career to Neptunes/Pharell production and then Kanye. This was his chance to finally have his name make waves. And indeed he did. With his lyrical skills, it is the dirt he had on Drake that really made the impact. His disses weren't Ether or No Vaseline or Dollaz and Sense levels. But the dirt he brought up about Drake is what really caused a stir.
Pusha's whole career depended on this. A respected lyricist (and ghostwriter
) for much of his career, but not the props from mainstream. He has taken a backseat his whole career to Neptunes/Pharell production and then Kanye. This was his chance to finally have his name make waves. And indeed he did. With his lyrical skills, it is the dirt he had on Drake that really made the impact. His disses weren't Ether or No Vaseline or Dollaz and Sense levels. But the dirt he brought up about Drake is what really caused a stir.A lot of stuff is easy to say in hindsight, only thing that Meek could've known was that it was a bad time to diss Drake as he had gained a new found respect after IYRITL and built up 6 years of good will after one of the greatest runs ever, but then again having said that I think he like a lot of us also over esitimated the impact the reference tracs/ghost writing exposal would have. No one could've predicted how hard social media would've went for Drake after clowning him for years, Meek lost that battle before it started. Pusha is obviously lyrically better, more cool headed, better strategically but he had a lot of benefits Meek didn't