How is Trae Young doing this when he just turned 19?Update: EMPTY STATS!! 17-24 12th seed EXPOSED!!

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Back in 2017 I wrote this...:yeshrug:
People will eventually see the light. Trae Young is the real deal. All the talk about not translating is silly. Smart teams will hop on the bandwagon now. But lets take a step back. Why is Trae Young so dominant in college? The answer is because the ability to shoot the ball well, especially from deep completely handcuffs the defense.

The two plays you see in that youtube video (starting at 5:21), and the two plays you see at 6:18 mark tell you all you need to know. With Steph people get caught up with the crazy 3's. From a defensive coaches standpoint, that is problematic but you'll live with it. The real problem that Steph poses is the pick and roll. And just like Steph, Trae Young is going to be a nightmare to guard on the pick and roll. And we are talking about pick and rolls 30 ft from the hoop, well beyond the three point line. Young has shown time and time again that he has the ability to make that shot consistently. Because he can beat you from that far from the hoop, defenses are forced to adjust. No you can switch the pick and roll, but the problem with that is Young is way too quick and will blow by him (to go a little deeper into this, not only is Trae fast, but because his shooting is so lethal, defenders will be leaning forward anticipating the jumper. This will make driving to the hoop that much easier. Big defenders will have no chance). Or you can trap the ball handler. This is why the Warriors need Draymond. When teams trap Steph he just passes the ball to Draymond. So now you have a 4 on 3 (on a side note. This is why KD going to the Warriors is so problematic. Maybe you have a chance in a 4 on 3 with Harrison Barnes being there, but a 4 on 3 with KD situation with KD is win for the offense.

In basketball, some skills are more important than others. And one of the most important skills a dominant ball handler can have is to be able to make 3's off the dribble from deep range. It absolutely destroys defenses and gives the offense an immediate advantage. Now, if that was the only skill that Trae Young had he wouldn't be that problematic. But when you add in his quickness, his dribbling ability (he did a shamgod in the above video), his already developed floater, and his passing ability you start to see the ingredients for a very dominant offensive player. The best comparison for him is Tony Parker. But even then that is a weak comparison because he is vastly superior to 19 year old Tony, and he has range. The best NBA comp for Trae is a blend between Tony Parker and Steph, with a healthy dash of great passing ability.

The fact that he's only 19 tells you all you need to know. With no glaring offensive weaknesses to fix (ala Ben Simmons), he'll be coming into the NBA and be able to focus on more advance techniques. The dumb team might pass on him because of his lack of wingspan and athleticism, but if he goes to a good coach, the sky is the limit. He has a legit chance to be a top 5 pg EVER. If not higher.
 

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they gotta capitalize on this opportunity…never know when they’ll be this close again.

I made the mistake of thinking the Falcons will be yearly super bowl contenders after they lost to the Patriots..can’t take these types of years for granted
 

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they gotta capitalize on this opportunity…never know when they’ll be this close again.

I made the mistake of thinking the Falcons will be yearly super bowl contenders after they lost to the Patriots..can’t take these types of years for granted

I see what you’re saying but football is a bit different. We’ve continually seen Super Bowl losers have a crazy fall off. The Hawks can easily come back to this point with a healthy team
 

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Feels good to know the basketball community feels the same way as I do about Trae :ahh:


All Star team? Nope didn't make that

Any all NBA teams ? Nope

Team USA ? No thank you, they said

What about the select team? Another no thank you

Ok, but what about as a replacement when the team fell apart a week before the Olympics and Trae was clearly pushing to be included ? Another resounding no





Feels good to be right :ahh:
 

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So nobody is gonna talk about how awful Trae has been this year ?

Awful percentages , no D, turnover machine, and the team is better with him on the bench

Always has a negative plus minus



He's a negative 300 for his career and it's getting worse every game this year Trae Young Career Plus Minus | StatMuse.



At some point this mirage of a worthwhile player is gonna have to be acknowledged
 

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So nobody is gonna talk about how awful Trae has been this year ?

Awful percentages , no D, turnover machine, and the team is better with him on the bench

Always has a negative plus minus



He's a negative 300 for his career and it's getting worse every game this year Trae Young Career Plus Minus | StatMuse.



At some point this mirage of a worthwhile player is gonna have to be acknowledged


U TRYIN TOO HARD
 

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U TRYIN TOO HARD
But I mean where's the counter argument?

He's been bad this year and the incredibly stacked Atlanta Hawks team (I mean that honestly, they're loaded and deep as shyt) are about to fall back down to .500 and it's directly because of how poorly he's played this year


He hasn't improved and has most regressed so far this year
 

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But I mean where's the counter argument?

He's been bad this year and the incredibly stacked Atlanta Hawks team (I mean that honestly, they're loaded and deep as shyt) are about to fall back down to .500 and it's directly because of how poorly he's played this year


He hasn't improved and has most regressed so far this year


A LOT OF PLAYERS WHOS GAME WAS PROPELLED BY DRAWING FOULS HAVE SUFFERED THIS YEAR WIT THE RULE CHANGE (DAME, HARDEN)

THIS IS AN ADJUSTMENT PERIOD

HE’S STILL AVERAGING 23-10 ON 43% FROM THE FIELD

I EXPECT HIM TO GET BETTER AS THE SEASON PROGRESSES ALA LAST YEAR
 

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A LOT OF PLAYERS WHOS GAME WAS PROPELLED BY DRAWING FOULS HAVE SUFFERED THIS YEAR WIT THE RULE CHANGE (DAME, HARDEN)

THIS IS AN ADJUSTMENT PERIOD

HE’S STILL AVERAGING 23-10 ON 43% FROM THE FIELD

I EXPECT HIM TO GET BETTER AS THE SEASON PROGRESSES ALA LAST YEAR
43% isn't good

Neither is the 27% from 3 he's currently shooting. Which can't be blamed on not being able to foul bait

Those #s will drop after tonight too


He also puts up these awful %s while being easily the worst defender in the league .


I mean I realise +/- is flawed overall, but if your team is constantly is doing worse with you on the floor, for your whole career, that's an issue no?
 

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43% isn't good

Neither is the 27% from 3 he's currently shooting. Which can't be blamed on not being able to foul bait

Those #s will drop after tonight too


He also puts up these awful %s while being easily the worst defender in the league .


I mean I realise +/- is flawed overall, but if your team is constantly is doing worse with you on the floor, for your whole career, that's an issue no?


43% FOR A POINT GUARD IS NOT BAD

DONT BE DUMB .. ATLANTA DOESNT MAKE PLAYOFFS WITOUT TRAE LAST YEAR
 

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43% FOR A POINT GUARD IS NOT BAD

DONT BE DUMB .. ATLANTA DOESNT MAKE PLAYOFFS WITOUT TRAE LAST YEAR
I disagree

They're deep as shyt and play better with him off the floor

They had a winning record without him last year and the East was awful.

That team easily makes the playoffs without him

They won game 4 against the bucks without him

He really adds almost nothing outside of volume.
 

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I disagree

They're deep as shyt and play better with him off the floor

They had a winning record without him last year and the East was awful.

That team easily makes the playoffs without him

They won game 4 against the bucks without him

He really adds almost nothing outside of volume.


LOL OK MAN IM NOT GUNA GO BACK N FORTH WIT U IF THATS WHAT U REALLY THINK
 

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LOL OK MAN IM NOT GUNA GO BACK N FORTH WIT U IF THATS WHAT U REALLY THINK
The Celtics finished 7th with a .500 record and teams 8 to 10 had a losing record

The Hawks also weren't gonna make the playoffs until Nate came along and changed the whole dynamic

The team is crazy deep. They woulda made the playoffs
 
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