How many guys here still insist on paying for the first date? Article defending this inside.

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http://jamesmsama.com/2014/09/10/here-is-why-paying-for-the-date-is-not-about-the-money/

So, you’ve spotted this woman at your local Starbucks, or grocery store, or tagged in a friend’s Facebook photo. You’ve started up a conversation, and she has agreed to spend some time with you. Let’s keep it simple and say you go to dinner.

Fantastic! You pick her up, open the door, and are a perfect gentleman all night. Then, the bill comes.

The next thing out of your mouth is “So, should we split it?”

And then, her face:



In my opinion, the man should always pay for dates, at least in the beginning stages of a relationship. But, why? She makes her own money, maybe even more than you. Shouldn’t she split it? Or, maybe even pay for it?

No. And this is why:

Dating is about courtship. Traditionally, men have been the ones to do the pursuing when it came to dating. They had to prove to a woman (and probably her family) that he was serious about getting to know her and being part of her life. This required effort. Planning the date, and yes, even paying for it. But more than that, being creative. Being thoughtful. Paying attention to what she likes and enjoys, and working that in to the equation. All of these things draw the line between just dating and courting.

Courting has a purpose, a purpose that our generations easily lose sight of because they are caught up in the dating game and don’t understand how beautiful it is to actually form a connection with someone.

She doesn’t need you to pay for her dinner, and she might even offer to split it. But damn it you fool, don’t you ever take her up on that offer. She wants to be swept off of her feet, to be romanced, to be valued and appreciated. To be pursued. That is why you pay for the date. It’s symbolic. It’s symbolic like wanting you to kill the spider. To open the door. To slay the dragon.

Many men will then say “But it is about the money, why does the woman always get a free ride?” Well first of all, if you are taking a woman out who is only spending time with you for a free meal, then your instincts may have to be re-calibrated so you don’t spend any more time or money on people like that.




Secondly, dating is not exactly a free ride for a woman. A 2011 Match.com survey uncovered the following statistics:

- 53% of women said they spend money in advance on new outfits and pre-date grooming.

- 65% of women spend more than $50 on preparing for the date.

She might go out and buy new shoes, or get her nails done, or even get her hair done. Do you have any idea what it costs for a manicure, pedicure, and a haircut? Probably more than you will spend on dinner, even at a nice restaurant in the city.

This, however, is still not about the money. It is about feeling good and looking good for you. It is about making a good impression with you and it is about hopefully, in the future, getting to spend more time with you.

But since this all happens behind the scenes, men tend to give a “wow, you look beautiful” at the beginning of the evening and really overlook the work and effort it took to achieve the result they wanted. I don’t care what Beyonce says, they did not “wake up like this.”

Romance is about spending time, not money. Your competency at it will not depend on what you are willing to spend, but on how creative and thoughtful you are going to be. I guarantee you that a woman would rather you put real effort into doing something less expensive together than she would taking her to a five star restaurant and having a lousy time with lousy conversation.



She doesn’t need you to take her out for a nice time, but she wants you to. That’s why she said yes to the date, and she doesn’t care what it costs. There are two things a woman should never touch on a date: The door, and the cheque.

The right woman doesn’t want your car, your money, or gifts. She wants your time, your effort, your honesty, your loyalty, and your respect.
 

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:mjlol: That article was a bit overboard. but If I ask a chick out than I'm going to cover the expenses of that date, that's just gentlemen shyt.
if you going on your 3rd and 4th date and she hasn't offered to do something for you(i.e, cook you a meal, come out of pocket for something) , than you might need to cancel her.
 

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I stopped courting years ago. Now I just have chicks come to my highrise condo and smash them as they are lookin out the window at an amazing view of the city. No dates for these westernized smuts.
 

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:mjlol: That article was a bit overboard. but If I ask a chick out than I'm going to cover the expenses of that date, that's just gentlemen shyt.
if you going on your 3rd and 4th date and she hasn't offered to do something for you(i.e, cook you a meal, come out of pocket for something) , than you might need to cancel her.

If you aren't smashing by the 2nd date in Atlanta YOU LOST! These ATL women are throwing p*ssy like crazy for free. You can get on tinder or pof and have a chick at your crib the same day. I havent taken a chck in atlanta on a date in years and i have new chicks coming over all the time.
 

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I stopped courting years ago. Now I just have chicks come to my highrise condo and smash them as they are lookin out the window at an amazing view of the city. No dates for these westernized smuts.
I know some of you might find this really hard to believe but some guys actually go on real dates with females because they want a real, get this, relationship.
 

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Lol Im making a general statement for the average male. Not everyone can be in the A :blessed:

Yep, I was single and celibate for nearly the entire three years I lived in Atlanta because of the mentality of the men and women.

Dudes just wanted to "chill" which was a no-go for me. I can chill by myself at home. Most of the women who were desperate as heck were typically down though.
 
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