How many of the Nas/Hitboy albums you think are classic/will be classics?

[Alvin]

3 at most

Magic
KD3
one of the other magic's or KD

 

[JoelB]

IWW and RD were released when both rappers were young, relevant, on the radio, and still crafting legacies. I don't think it's comparable to today. I know people disagree but I simply don't believe Nas or Jay can release anything today that defines or harms their legacies. They're set. The game clock is at 0, the score is settled. KRS has dropped multiple albums over the last 15 years and none of them impact his place either, whether good or bad.

Nas' legacy revolves around Illmatic through Life Is Good. With the most important/popular period of that being Illmatic through God's Son. Most people don't fukk with SD, HHID, or Untitled so Life Is Good is the comeback album that calmed haters down and made fans proud. In short, 1994-2012 is the era you're gonna hear about when you bring up Nas in a barbershop. With Jay it would be Reasonable Doubt through MCHG. Yea 444 is good but you're not gonna hear anyone talking about that at the shop either.

The point is, you cant always measure an albums "impact" immediately following its release.

Every album after Illmatic has be criticized for not being Illmatic. They called IWW a "sellout" album at first. Time went on, and now u have some people saying it's better than Illmatic.

It wasnt until after Vol. 2 when Jay and his stans went back and made RD this heralded album. The Source rated it 4 mics originally.

I personally have 4 out of the 6 Nas/HB collabs in Nas's top 10. His legacy is set as being GOAT, but we have no idea how these albums will impact other legacy artists going forward. We're in uncharted territory bc we've never seen a 50 year old rapper still making grammy award winning/ AOTY type albums.

KRS is not doing this
Black Thought is not doing this
Rakim is not doing this
Jay-z is not doing this

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Im surprised people think Magic 3 is like Magic 2

I think people are just burnt out from this era, so they're saying anything to create new narratives. Anyone can listen to Magic 3 and see that it's a step up from Magic 2. It was the Magic sequel I expected back in July, in terms of carrying on the same vibe as the first one. I don't know if Nas and Hit-Boy heard something that someone said, but they came back pissed on this album.

IWW and RD were released when both rappers were young, relevant, on the radio, and still crafting legacies. I don't think it's comparable to today. I know people disagree but I simply don't believe Nas or Jay can release anything today that defines or harms their legacies. They're set. The game clock is at 0, the score is settled. KRS has dropped multiple albums over the last 15 years and none of them impact his place either, whether good or bad.

Nas' legacy revolves around Illmatic through Life Is Good. With the most important/popular period of that being Illmatic through God's Son. Most people don't fukk with SD, HHID, or Untitled so Life Is Good is the comeback album that calmed haters down and made fans proud. In short, 1994-2012 is the era you're gonna hear about when you bring up Nas in a barbershop. With Jay it would be Reasonable Doubt through MCHG. Yea 444 is good but you're not gonna hear anyone talking about that at the shop either.

I think 4:44 can be added to Jay-Z's story. I also think his approach changed musically after that album. The second half of his career has been pretty inconsistent, so he needed 4:44. It was his best album in ten years, and received a lot of praise for its introspection and vulnerability. It also has great No I.D. production.

I want to shift gears for a minute and talk about Eminem. What do you think his legacy is? Do you think his later albums hurt his career or do they not matter because of what he did in his prime?

 

[Zero]

At zero not being an option

 

[pez]

Magic is extremely good and near flawless because it’s so compact…idk about calling ish “classic” tho, classic is some game-changing timeless excellence type ish to me, word is thrown around way too freely.

I think of Magic 1 and Magic 2 as mixtapes. They were both 30 minutes long. Magic 3 feels like a whole project though.

 

[Reptile]

Nas fans are delusional lol

 

[BK The Great]

U don’t need a hit record to be classic

But u would think out of 80 songs one would make an impact. By fukking accident or something.

The only thing close to viral was a line about Jay Z.

Nas don’t rap about nothing is the real issue that’s why it’s not connecting. He raps to his core while lacking the ability to talk to outside his fanbase to where they care.

Nas does rap about a lot of things, the entire Magic/King Disease trilogy he's reflecting of his past and talking about his success in business and music.

 

[BK The Great]

And honestly thats okay because I feel like that circle gonna be the ones still talking about classic albums and th undeground scene past decade. They e the vinyl collectors. The other kids just want playlist albums and vibes and harmonizing rap and thats okay too

It's still too early to tell these albums just came out, but they have a lot of replay value.

 

[Knucklehead]

Honestly I love Nas but weirdos were so mad that people didn’t like Magic 2 they were calling Magic 3 a classic off the track list and then immediately upon release.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Whats the classic moment?

I’ll leave this here for you, perhaps you forgot

Nas Performs Sold Out Concert At Madison Square Garden In NYC - Ground Up Radio

Are you saying Nas got a concert at MSG off the strength of KD3 as opposed to it being off the strength of Nas himself?

By your own logic, you consider The Blueprint III a classic then because Jay-Z did MSG in support of that too.

 

[Cladyclad]

Nas does rap about a lot of things, the entire Magic/King Disease trilogy he's reflecting of his past and talking about his success in business and music.

No lol

Who the hell wants to hear 6 albums of “I remember when”
Only his weirdo Stan’s like that type of shyt

 

[BK The Great]

No lol

Who the hell wants to hear 6 albums of “I remember when”
Only his weirdo Stan’s like that type of shyt

He's also rapping about the music industry changing, all of the albums he's touching on other topics. I'm guessing you're not listening to the albums

 

[Piff Perkins]

444 stay being talked about in reference to things

All jay albums had impact

I'm not saying it wasn't a relevant album, I'm saying Jay's legacy was secured long before that album and no one is adding or removing anything from it based on that album. Album went plat, had a hit record, etc. Cool. Go to a barbershop and talk about Jay and I guarantee you no one is bringing it up. Not a knock on the album, just a point about what albums people think about when they're arguing about rap.

 

[Cladyclad]

I'm not saying it wasn't a relevant album, I'm saying Jay's legacy was secured long before that album and no one is adding or removing anything from it based on that album. Album went plat, had a hit record, etc. Cool. Go to a barbershop and talk about Jay and I guarantee you no one is bringing it up. Not a knock on the album, just a point about what albums people think about when they're arguing about rap.

At my barbershop it’s the only Jay album my barber like lol

 

[Ziggiy]

Are you saying Nas got a concert at MSG off the strength of KD3 as opposed to it being off the strength of Nas himself?

By your own logic, you consider The Blueprint III a classic then because Jay-Z did MSG in support of that too.

I’m saying it was conceptualized, marketed, and presented as a Kings Disease concert

Nas announces one night only 'King's Disease' trilogy show

Tickets for the Nas show will be available to the general public starting Nov. 18.

www.revolt.tv

I’m saying 80% of the setlist consisted of KD1-KD3 songs with some Magic sprinkled in





And therefore i’m saying if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck then its NOT a Camel