How much should you have accomplished by 25 years of age?

[SadimirPutin]

there is no answer to that because there are many factors...SOME OF WHICH ARE OUT OF YOUR CONTROL.....that have bearing on what you will and should have accomplished.

focus on being a decent human being....

 

[Reginald Noble]

there is no answer to that because there are many factors...SOME OF WHICH ARE OUT OF YOUR CONTROL.....that have bearing on what you will and should have accomplished.

focus on being a decent human being....

It's a shame though if a nikka wants to get p*ssy, on average he must actually NOT be a decent human being....

 

[SadimirPutin]

It's a shame though if a nikka wants to get p*ssy, on average he must actually NOT be a decent human being....

I was going to post a mild rebuttal to this but in all honesty I can see why a lot of dudes feel this way because for a large subset of male female interactions this is probably true.

I could say some silly patronising thing about looking for the right girl but to be honest those girls are becoming increasingly harder to find despite the fact that we as a society are able to access and interact with an enormous amount of people on the planet.

A guy in Alabama could wake up today and chat with a girl in Sweeden which could possibly blossom into absolutely nothing or even end up as marriage.

All I can say is under the decent human being banner is to be reasonably upfront with your intentions.....you cant be responsible for your feelings and her feelings because you as a guy have limited control over her emotions.

I tend to the side of treating women kindly until they show me disrespect or the darker corners of their psyche.

Give a woman 2 chances.....never a third.

 

[Reginald Noble]

I was going to post a mild rebuttal to this but in all honesty I can see why a lot of dudes feel this way because for a large subset of male female interactions this is probably true.

I could say some silly patronising thing about looking for the right girl but to be honest those girls are becoming increasingly harder to find despite the fact that we as a society are able to access and interact with an enormous amount of people on the planet.

A guy in Alabama could wake up today and chat with a girl in Sweeden which could possibly blossom into absolutely nothing or even end up as marriage.

All I can say is under the decent human being banner is to be reasonably upfront with your intentions.....you cant be responsible for your feelings and her feelings because you as a guy have limited control over her emotions.

I tend to the side of treating women kindly until they show me disrespect or the darker corners of their psyche.

Give a woman 2 chances.....never a third.

It sounds like you're just over the delusion of thinking that girls are sugar and spice and everything nice.... Congratulations on your transformation. Your life will improve by 500-1000% now.

The problem on why I can't relate to a lot of my fellow brothers is their mothers coddled them. I don't know if such was the case in your situation but you seem similar to another dude on here that admitted his forgiving nature towards Women and their indiscretions today is mostly due to his upbringing.

I had my Father active in my life but let's put Dad to the side as a factor for now.

Let's assume that I didn't have my Father in my life and only influenced by my mother. My Mother never coddled me or minced words, she told it like it is. Her tone was not harsh ever but her delivery was clear and nothing was mystified or withheld.

I was not raised like a lot of young Black Men my age or younger, my Mother told me what she thought of other people and whether they were genuine or not. She taught me to be astute especially in regards to females and that by looking at their mothers would ultimately determine what fukkery she was capable of down the road. My mother is a lot more easy going than she used to be when she was younger but always has been analytical and practical similar to my grandfather (her dad). My grandfather wasn't as open with his opinion on specific life decisions, but he tended to reinforce "Whoever you choose to be with make sure they're not full of shyt and whatever you choose to do in life make sure it puts food on the table and doesn't put you in the position to deal with shytty people on the daily basis".

I was not raised to think all females are nice and a blessing. I was raised to be aware there are demons in this world looking to harm your well being and prevent you from achieving your goals and aspirations. Hence the "Who hurt you" bullshyt brainwashed replies I sometimes get (along with other Brothers with the same vigilant mentality). No one hurt me - And the fact that no Woman has, reinforces the success of my approach which is why I will continue promoting it and practicing it.

This is a perspective that most American Black Men are not raised with, as a result most of my friends growing up were diverse. There are brainwashed Americans of all ethnic backgrounds, I gravitated towards whoever was raised the same way, regardless of their background.

 

[BlackBall]

Income and ownership define success in this godless country.

 

[SadimirPutin]

It sounds like you're just over the delusion of thinking that girls are sugar and spice and everything nice.... Congratulations on your transformation. Your life will improve by 500-1000% now.

The problem on why I can't relate to a lot of my fellow brothers is their mothers coddled them. I don't know if such was the case in your situation but you seem similar to another dude on here that admitted his forgiving nature towards Women and their indiscretions today is mostly due to his upbringing.

I had my Father active in my life but let's put Dad to the side as a factor for now.

Let's assume that I didn't have my Father in my life and only influenced by my mother. My Mother never coddled me or minced words, she told it like it is. Her tone was not harsh ever but her delivery was clear and nothing was mystified or withheld.

I was not raised like a lot of young Black Men my age or younger, my Mother told me what she thought of other people and whether they were genuine or not. She taught me to be astute especially in regards to females and that by looking at their mothers would ultimately determine what fukkery she was capable of down the road. My mother is a lot more easy going than she used to be when she was younger but always has been analytical and practical similar to my grandfather (her dad). My grandfather wasn't as open with his opinion on specific life decisions, but he tended to reinforce "Whoever you choose to be with make sure they're not full of shyt and whatever you choose to do in life make sure it puts food on the table and doesn't put you in the position to deal with shytty people on the daily basis".

I was not raised to think all females are nice and a blessing. I was raised to be aware there are demons in this world looking to harm your well being and prevent you from achieving your goals and aspirations. Hence the "Who hurt you" bullshyt brainwashed replies I sometimes get (along with other Brothers with the same vigilant mentality). No one hurt me - And the fact that no Woman has, reinforces the success of my approach which is why I will continue promoting it and practicing it.

This is a perspective that most American Black Men are not raised with, as a result most of my friends growing up were diverse. There are brainwashed Americans of all ethnic backgrounds, I gravitated towards whoever was raised the same way, regardless of their background.

I have never been under any delusion about the nature of women

My personality just tends towards a more forgiving stance of people within a reasonable variance...Yours probably is on the other side of the spectrum

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

By 25 you should've

1) Finished college ( If you started at 18)
2) At least be in the entry level of your career
3)Have a car

That's all you can hope for to be honest.

 

[Reginald Noble]

I have never been under any delusion about the nature of women

My personality just tends towards a more forgiving stance of people within a reasonable variance...Yours probably is on the other side of the spectrum

I understand what you're getting at but this brings up an important point for a lot of brothers on this thread with a similar outlook to you:

I just don't think as it stands right now we can afford to be forgiving or easy going AT ALL and should err on the side of caution. Our community is truly under siege right now and to the OPs point - You have Black Men who have reached 25 with no stable income of a livable wage, no assets of any kind. And this number just continues to increase. Meanwhile you have these Women yammering there aren't enough good Black Men but raising the sons of b*stard deadbeats willingly over and over again.

A lot of it is because Black Men aren't angry enough. I think people in general respect those who lean more on the side of being mean spirited within reason than those who are "pleasant". Look at Scalia, a lot of people loved him. Same with Trump. The Amerikkkan people have spoken. We are the only people singing Kumbaya. The rest are proclaiming "Charge!" in their native tongue if not English. This same concept applies to Women. These Women are not having sex with soft negro James who is in school studying medicine. James is a nice nikka that thinks that he should open the Woman's car door first, pump her gas and wait a few months to try and feel on the booty. Meanwhile they are having sex with Tyrone of the same age with the same financial portfolio - Net negative. In Amerikkka no matter what your level is - Being even a little nice is considered to be a weakness.

I would love to give people the benefit of the doubt but I just can't. There are a lot of medicated people in my zipcode and mentally disturbed. Some of them I can't even communicate to them in the English language.

We are speaking the same vocabulary but their minds are so fukked up they can't comprehend the world around them. How can I be forgiving of someone who isn't even mentally capable or disciplined enough to walk the streets without stumbling into people and bursting into random fits of anger?

The world we live in today does not warrant forgiveness, it warrants a culling of those who would seek to destroy us.

We as a people are at War with society and with each other and we don't even realize it. How many Black people will still eat Chinese food knowing those shop owners support Liang and demand his conviction be over-turned? Will you give them the benefit of the doubt when they have not been brave enough to reveal they believe Liang is a fukkwad and deserved what he got? The silent ones go in the same boat as the ones openly supporting him. Silence is tacit approval. I believe brother Malcolm said this in regards to Whites tacitly supporting the anti-negro establishment at the time.

I've turned this into a wider discussion but it is rooted in what you implied about essentially giving people the benefit of the doubt.

Give them an inch and they'll take a foot. I doubt everyone including myself. This mentality has brought me success in life. Even a sliver of empathy can be a weakness in the wrong situation.

Kill or be killed is a better mentality to have and it will allow you to not only secure more Women but riches as well.

 

[root_eruditorium_org]

I have never been under any delusion about the nature of women

My personality just tends towards a more forgiving stance of people within a reasonable variance...Yours probably is on the other side of the spectrum

This response was on point . Given how the coli is, I was expecting a huge titan graph filled with curses and stuff. Nice.

 

[root_eruditorium_org]

By 25 you should've

1) Finished college ( If you started at 18)
2) At least be in the entry level of your career
3)Have a car

That's all you can hope for to be honest.

Funny that you mention having a car when you live in NYC. I don't agree with (3) at all to be honest with you.

 

[root_eruditorium_org]

Even Comp Sci I'm a little skeptical of advanced degrees.

If you're in a HUGE emerging field like Biosimilars for Pharma or Big Data or something else where the demand is extremely high with a low supply for the 10-15 year outlook then yeah do your thing.

But I know too many MBAs, MAs etc. out of work for being "over-qualified". The funny thing is I have probably same debt as a former colleague of mine with an MBA - Because he went to an OK undergrad and got his grad at a more reputable U. I just got my undergrad at a reputable U. So we have even debt levels but one of us is more employable and easier to pay off debt because they won't think I will jump before the 1 year mark. Honestly if you look at his resume since undergrad it's a mess compared to mine and there's not a ton of linearity for employers to see which is not good. MBAs are really at risk for falling off the map, due to the double catch 22 in which they want someone with 7 years work experience AND an MBA. So if you're 25 with an MBA and no work experience you're gonna be SOL. Boxed out of lower level jobs for being under-qualified and boxed out of MBA level jobs for lack of experience. In all likelihood they'll give into pressure and hire a superstar with just a BS/BA with 10 years exp. and pay him less money. But at least his bills are paid - Meanwhile you have phDs sitting on the couch unemployed. Plus that BA/BS guy can try and get the employer to pay for his MBA or whatever.

Another thing is age. A 55 year old with an MBA or MA etc. is attractive. A 25 year old? Not at all unless you are in VERY niche in-demand industries that warrant that extra education. They want to pay a 25 year old 75k-85k. They don't want to pay him 100k with almost no years of quality fortune 500 work experience. An MBA will command that price on the market and employers are still balking at paying that for a kid with exactly what they asked for but too wet behind the ears to really get in the weeds and contribute from day 1. It's a fukked up paradox but I seen it with my own two eyes.

If you want to look at what will happen to this labor market in the U.S. look at Japan. Dwindling high paying jobs = lower domestic birth rate due to lower quality of life. You can get all the education you want but if there aren't enough jobs "perceived" to fit your level you will be broke, defaulted on your loans and your life in the U.S. is pretty much over. A lot of MBAs from India have gotten sent right back after graduation. They can never enter the U.S. again because Sallie Mae will hound that ass as soon as they are spotted on the radar by signing up for a cellphone plan and any other signs of residing here. They probably won't be shot off rooftops because foreigners generally can't get federal loans unless they enlist in the military. But their credit will be shot and if you're a finance major you're fukked. Some other roles too discriminate based on credit, although NY is doing away with that and other states to follow soon.

I never used to be skeptical as my family always hammered down to me the importance of education, but then I started hanging around a lot of cats with Masters, and Phd degrees and let me tell you getting either one became a lot less appealing. Like right now I have a really good friend of mine with a Phd looking everywhere for a job. He is flying to Europe tomorrow for an interview. He didn't have any luck. He is in his 30s right now and really has no career to speak of. Me and him are more or less on equal ground evven though I just have my Bsc and he has spent over a decade of his life trying to acquire an advanced degree. Man you can even say I'm slightly ahead since I have a job RIGHT NOW. Crazy.

 

[Reginald Noble]

I never used to be skeptical as my family always hammered down to me the importance of education, but then I started hanging around a lot of cats with Masters, and Phd degrees and let me tell you getting either one became a lot less appealing. Like right now I have a really good friend of mine with a Phd looking everywhere for a job. He is flying to Europe tomorrow for an interview. He didn't have any luck. He is in his 30s right now and really has no career to speak of. Me and him are more or less on equal ground evven though I just have my Bsc and he has spent over a decade of his life trying to acquire an advanced degree. Man you can even say I'm slightly ahead since I have a job RIGHT NOW. Crazy.

It's really nuts. He can eat in Germany though if he stays focused because advanced degrees is in hot demand there right now. Germans are making a lot of shyt and their economy is robust but they need labor from BAs all the way up to phDs. That is why they are giving free to low discounted tuition. Major talent shortage.

But any big country the more educated you are it becomes harder to get a job. You can get investors and shyt, but not everyone can be the next big entrepreneur.

Success rates are real low and this is another reason why I was never crazy about having kids. Too many fukking catch 22s in this society and also the East as well. You need konnects and money to get ahead and guarantee your progeny a comfortable life.

More education can sometimes serve to alienate you and make you broke as hell more than you ever thought. Employers look at me and like OK if we do it right we can get at least 2-4 years out of him. But a lot of it is jealousy and envy too you have the people hiring you don't have these advanced degrees some barely got a got damn HS diploma from 1988 or 1976 or some shyt.

 

[SadimirPutin]

speak to some HR proffessionals who in moments of candor will let you know how much of a farce the hiring process is at times

at this point if you dont have an MBA/masters/Phd I would honestly suggest only doing that if a) your job was paying for it b) you can easily afford the cost of doing one yourself without taking on debt

 

[Reginald Noble]

speak to some HR proffessionals who in moments of candor will let you know how much of a farce the hiring process is at times

at this point if you dont have an MBA/masters/Phd I would honestly suggest only doing that if a) your job was paying for it b) you can easily afford the cost of doing one yourself without taking on debt

A lot of bytches in HR are seriously a fukking joke.

I wonder if being in HR makes a Woman's p*ssy juice dry up so bad they always have a taut or scrunched up look on their face and don't even want to process my payroll change requests.

Hoes in my HR stopped sending out internal recruiting referral incentives and basically is just letting some accounts exist with 50% staff turnover and nobody is batting a motha fockin fake eyelash at that shyt neither. shyts always gravy with them and "no worries" my Black ass, bytch!

I fukking hate HR with a passion it's part of the reason I'm looking to go to a smaller firm with less B.S.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Funny that you mention having a car when you live in NYC. I don't agree with (3) at all to be honest with you.

It's a Queens thing. It's the NYC Suburb, we need a car.