How much would Reggie Miller average in this Warriors offense?
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Our wonderful mod who posts like a troll, @CHICAGO who used the argument of he carried a team of nobodies to the conference finals in the rough and tumble 90's as why he's betterwho
killer miller is certainly closer to being underrated then he is to freaking bandon rush and ian clark. smh
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Our wonderful mod who posts like a troll, @CHICAGO who used the argument of he carried a team of nobodies to the conference finals in the rough and tumble 90's as why he's better
He's still bitter Wade didn't want to go back to chicago? Who the hell wouldn't choose miami over chicago?
Apparently performances like that are common place for role players. Pure insanity, he was a great great player.
Its true. All the stuff you guys call him overrated for barely anyone even mistakes him for such and it's really not recognized just how strong of an offensive anchor he was for Indiana.
And in general, off ball play is the single most under appreciated skill in the game today. Playing entirely within the flow of an offense and providing volume scoring on great efficiency is somehow looked at as a negative or detriment compared to a guy that dribbles the air out of a basketball, stagnates an offense and chucks their way to an inneficient scoring total.
Simply put, you aren't using that term correctly if you think Miller of all people is overrated. It's the exact opposite and he's right there with Manu for most underrated guards I've seen.
Reggie was one of my all time favorites so i may be biased, but he was legit. The guy would take and hit big shots, and played with a lot of heart. In this era, he'd have more opportunity to hit 3's. He'd be more like Klay, even though Klay is better on D and is better down low. Reggie has a quicker release, and i think in this Era would be a more efficient shooter than Klay.
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Forget the tape and the words of NBA players who competed against Miller, once Coi posters with 0.0 pro ball experience tell you he was a bum and have smileys rolling on the floor laughing that's your verification to the player he was
And given that I never compared him to either player, I have no idea why you're quoting me.
He was a very good player. Steph Curry is a great great player. The thinly disguised premise of the thread is to insinuate the Warriors have a "system" that allows Steph Curry to put up numbers that are inflated, and that Reggie Miller would also put up similar numbers with the same team, in the same "system." Which is, you know, too stupid to merit debate.
Reggie was a one-dimensional deadeye shooter who moved expertly without the ball. He played on some decent but not all that great teams who were perpetual also-rans. The best Pacers teams he played on featured him as the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best player on the roster. He's a borderline Hall of Famer.
The overall narrative of Reggie Miller as some GAWD shooting guard who went toe to toe with the other greats and played to their level is dishonest and silly. To compare him to Steph is beneath discussion.
I have to agree although I think he would fit in well with golden state.I'm not sure how you're ranking the best Pacers teams, but Reggie was their best player from '90-'01. Big reason they were able to still contend when he was a shell of himself is because of the emergence of Ron Artest who the Pacers damn sure could've used in the mid '90s. If you look at how insane those Pacers offenses produced when he was on the court (122 Ortg on average during that 11 year span, which is incredible) he did more than his share to keep the team relevant. By the NBA's cupcake HOF standards the man should moonwalk there, that's not a borderline discussion
Yeah, it's fair to consider Miller one dimensional. But does that matter when he was borderline dominant at the one aspect of the game and it had a huge ripple effect on the entirety of his team's offense? And then he got even better in the postseason which is the biggest stage this game has to offer? And he didn't just shoot, but he did a great job of getting to the FT line which is a very important skill for volume scorers. His off ball movement wasn't just spotting up which a lot of people define it as. but also cutting to the basket, leaking out in transition where he was remarkable and being able to hit shots even when well contested by a closing defender.
Miller isn't seen as GAWD shooting guard idk where this even comes from. The consensus opinion is that he's a scrawny, irritating one dimensional yet elite jumpshooter that had a long career with the Pacers. Most famous thing he's remembered for is the 8 points in 9 seconds stretch against the Knicks in the '95 playoffs and doing a choking gesture toward Spike Lee. He's had a lot of other incredible postseason performances aside from that, but we don't talk about them. People will talk about how garbage he is as a broadcaster before his performance in the '95 PS against the Hawks (31 ppg; 66 TS%) and Magic (25.9ppg; 66 TS%). Nobody with a brain is saying he's on par with Jordan, just that he's had some good moments against MJ which is true.
I'm not comparing Miller to Curry here and I disagree with the OP's premise there but Steph is playing on such an astronomical level that you can still say this comparison isn't remotely close while not disrespecting Miller's legacy. He was a great player.
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75 points a game just like every other player from the 90s cuz u know no hand checking rules plus players today are p*ssy. Y'all saw how Reggie snuffed Kobe
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He obviously had no idea who Reggie Miller is
Or what he looked like while playing the game
Lol
Their best teams featured him as 1a or 1b when Jalen Rose was the one-two punch with him, and as a 3rd best player behind O'Neal and Artest. He was a very good player on a team that was rarely a threat to reach the finals, and often lingered around .500. He never made an All NBA 1st or 2nd team. Three times in his career he made the All NBA 3rd team. He never finished in the top 10 for MVP. He shot the 3 well and got to the line and made his free throws. He disrupted defenses with his movement off the ball and the threat of his range. But that can be said about plenty of players. His playoff success is greatly overstated. His scoring goes up slightly, as do his minutes, so that's mo huge feat. Somehow, his assists and rebounds go down, and they were already sub-par for his position. He's a borderline Hall of Famer to me in the sense that throwing his name around with the greats of his era seems dishonest. Very good, but not great is how I view him.
Thread premise is what I was responding too. Also the notion of an underrated Reggie, who is lauded in the mainstream as super clutch superstar at this point, largely because of Sports Center highlights culture. For the record, I think I'd rather have Manu over Miller. Then again, there's a long list of SGs I'd take over Reggie.
Reggie's career in retrospect is underrated- and you do a nice job bringing up why. He's got the best true shooting % all time for shooting guards as well I believe.