how p*ssy was it for naS to sample Pac on ether considering

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let's be real out there, you want to talk about bytch moves, let's talk about bytch moves. pac is the guy that tought after he got shot in ny, deciced it would be good to use a that as a marketing plot to shyt on his so call friend biggie and puff who got nutin to do with it just for sales, ended up by his death and biggie's. Not to mention hit em up was the most childish diss record ever, far more that everything that have been said on ether.

And how come this guy keeps dissin white people dissing quincy jones for bein married to a white women and then dating madonna, and dating quincy daughter, explain that you twat moron :beli:

:whoo: @this factual ether......thats what really makes threads like this so hypocritical
 

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:what:

You're a fvcking retard.

Why don't you do us all a favor and go sell or throwaway that piece of sh!t pc/tablet/phone you're posting from. You don't even believe the bullsh!t you post, b!tch.
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you know a nikka stupid who names himself intellectual recipricol then dummy spells the word intellectual wrong in his screen name:pachaha:
 

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let's be real out there, you want to talk about bytch moves, let's talk about bytch moves. pac is the guy that tought after he got shot in ny, deciced it would be good to use a that as a marketing plot to shyt on his so call friend biggie and puff who got nutin to do with it just for sales, ended up by his death and biggie's. Not to mention hit em up was the most childish diss record ever, far more that everything that have been said on ether.

And how come this guy keeps dissin white people dissing quincy jones for bein married to a white women and then dating madonna, and dating quincy daughter, explain that you twat moron :beli:
Rewrite history brehs.

Pac didn't think that though (and he interpreted the event differently than Big/Puff, but obviously if you get shot you're probably not thinking straight).

Tupac told VIBE that moments after he was ambushed and shot in the building's lobby, he took the elevator up to the studio, where he saw about 40 people, including Biggie and Puffy. "Nobody approached me. I noticed that nobody would look at me," said Tupac, suggesting that the people in the room knew he was going to be shot.

And Puff/Big were the ones who decided it would be a good idea to put this out a few months after the shooting, which instigated the Hit Em Up reply in the first place.

 
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Pac didn't think that though (and he interpreted the event differently than Big/Puff, but obviously if you get shot you're probably not thinking straight). Rewrite history brehs.



And Big was the one who decided it would be a good idea to put this out 2 months after the shooting.



right, so you got shot, you know who shot you but instead of retaliate (cause you know... you're about the thug life this and thug life that) you just drop a diss record. C'mon, prodigy told e money bags and strech who were close to pac told pac who shot him and pac told them he would use a fake feud against biggie for promo. Now, I know Pee can be kinda shaky with his stories, but that one is far more credible than a murder atempt by biggie and puffy who clearly are more fly gangstas than real murderers don or some shyt. Specially when you know how down they were with pac, it makes no sense. And the fact that pac was keeping add fuel to the east coast/west coast feud by randomly dissin people confirm the marketing scheme he was following.
 

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right, so you got shot, you know who shot you but instead of retaliate (cause you know... you're about the thug life this and thug life that) you just drop a diss record. C'mon, prodigy told e money bags and strech who were close to pac told pac who shot him and pac told them he would use a fake feud against biggie for promo. Now, I know Pee can be kinda shaky with his stories, but that one is far more credible than a murder atempt by biggie and puffy who clearly are more fly gangstas than real murderers don or some shyt. Specially when you know how down they were with pac, it makes no sense. And the fact that pac was keeping add fuel to the east coast/west coast feud by randomly dissin people confirm the marketing scheme he was following.
First off he didn't 100% know anything about the responsible parties. It was all speculation.

The same Prodigy that Pac had beef with? Great source. And just because Prodigy said that Big/Puff weren't responsible (or w/e he said) doesn't mean Pac would've actually believed him. Plus Prodigy used that info to try to help sell his book (same shyt he's accusing Pac of in a way). I didn't hear him coming out and saying that stuff 15 year prior when it was actually relevant.

And it doesn't even make sense to say he did it for financial gains. Me Against The World went 2 or 3x platinum. AEOM was released on Feb 13, went 5x plat by April. Hit Em Up didn't even come out until June of that year. He didn't need beef to sell records.

And that still doesn't change the fact that Who Shot Ya came out first - which was enough to put those questions/speculation into Pac's head and piss him off. Even if he didn't think Big was responsible, he still took that song personally. The whole incident (of the shooting) in general had to rub him the wrong way and leave him pretty pissed off already, and that song just pushed his buttons even more.

It's like when Royce spit a freestyle that said "fukk anger management, I need somebody to manage my anger" - and Anger Management was the name of Eminem's tour at the time. Even if he didn't mean it as a diss, it still was enough to put that thought into Em/D12's minds, and Em still took it personally and they had a falling out after that.
 
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right, so you got shot, you know who shot you but instead of retaliate (cause you know... you're about the thug life this and thug life that) you just drop a diss record. C'mon, prodigy told e money bags and strech who were close to pac told pac who shot him and pac told them he would use a fake feud against biggie for promo. Now, I know Pee can be kinda shaky with his stories, but that one is far more credible than a murder atempt by biggie and puffy who clearly are more fly gangstas than real murderers don or some shyt. Specially when you know how down they were with pac, it makes no sense. And the fact that pac was keeping add fuel to the east coast/west coast feud by randomly dissin people confirm the marketing scheme he was following.
for 15 years nikkas done stuck with the thug in a thong story cause its easier they aint changing now:heh:....the truth will fall on deaf ears cause they want to believe in the fairytale thug version of pac instead of the reality victim version
 
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nikkas done stuck with the thug in a thong story cause its easier for 15 years they aint changing now:heh:....the truth will fall on deaf ears cause they want to believe in the fairytale thug version of pac instead of the reality victim version
It's not even about that. It's about people ignoring blatant facts about the situation trying to twist it to whatever story they like to fit their own agenda and bias.
 

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It's not even about that. It's about people ignoring blatant facts about the situation trying to twist it to whatever story they like.
the facts are pac got shot robbed and sonned...the facts are pac knew who shot him and did nothing but make fake threats on records and gassed up a bunch of stans while in real life the real nikkas who bullied him laughed and moved to los angeles...the end
 

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First off he didn't 100% know anything about the responsible parties. It was all speculation.

The same Prodigy that Pac had beef with? Great source. And just because Prodigy said that stuff doesn't mean Pac would've actually believed him. Plus Prodigy used that info to try to help sell his book (same shyt he's accusing Pac of in a way). I didn't hear him coming out and saying that stuff 15 year prior when it was actually relevant.

And it doesn't even make sense to say he did it for financial gains. Me Against The World went 2 or 3x platinum. AEOM was released on Feb 13, went 5x plat by April. Hit Em Up didn't even come out until June of that year. He didn't need beef to sell records.

And that still doesn't change the fact that Who Shot Ya came out first - which was enough to put those questions/speculation into Pac's head and piss him off. Even if he didn't think Big was responsible, he still took that song personally. The whole incident (of the shooting) in general had to rub him the wrong way and leave him pretty pissed off already.

It's like when Royce spit a freestyle that said "fukk anger management, I need somebody to manage my anger" - and Anger Management was the name of Eminem's tour at the time. Even if he didn't mean it as a diss, it still was enough to put that thought into Em/D12's minds, and Em still took it personally and they had a falling out after that.


that's what I call pretexts. Pac would have went on biggie no matter what even if who shot ya wouldn't have existed, same with royce an d12, theses things are just excuse. It's like when Ghost said "dont wanna see 2pac on the purple tape, 2 pac never dissed Ghost or the wu for this because ha had no beef or reason to go at them. believe if biggie would have said such things instead of who shot ya, pac would have said something just to spark shyt.

and again, if pac really thinks biggie was responsible for the shooting and felt who shot ya was like biggi bragging about it, he wouldnt have just make a diss record for this. He would have retaliate
 

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yo can someone please post that tupac in a speedo picture again?
 

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that's what I call pretexts. Pac would have went on biggie no matter what even if who shot ya wouldn't have existed, same with royce an d12, theses things are just excuse. It's like when Ghost said "dont wanna see 2pac on the purple tape, 2 pac never dissed Ghost or the wu for this because ha had no beef or reason to go at them. believe if biggie would have said such things instead of who shot ya, pac would have said something just to spark shyt.

and again, if pac really thinks biggie was responsible for the shooting and felt who shot ya was like biggi bragging about it, he wouldnt have just make a diss record for this. He would have retaliate
pac was all talk...like his idol suge he was scared to death of jimmy and hatian jack except for in the recording booth:pachaha:
 

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that was alright because he was showing the hypocrisy in jay remaking me and my girlfriend.
along with the jay loves pac pr run on hardknock life to absorb the pac fanbase.

nas, fukked't up with the pac shyt.
when, he bit pac's delivery later on.
to fall into suit like every other pac biter.

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