Kill Dat Noize
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how do you know what went into earning it?
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Is privilege bad even when it's earned?
No. That's very subjective tho.
Having money, being wealthy, is being privileged. What spurred that allocation of resources is largely irrelevant to the nature of that status.
Many pro athletes are culturally lower class, they still have a privileged position. Well paid Teachers/doctors/nurses do good, necessary work, they still occupy a privileged position.
Kill Dat Noize
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they earned that privilege did they not?
How is it subjective? If someone works their way up from lower/middle class to upper class, what exactly is your issue?
Not at all. The only unjust privilege is when it's inherited. You haven't done shyt to earn it if you inherit it, you just lucked out and got rewarded for the actions of your parents. And if you get rewarded for the actions of your parents then that makes it possible for people to be punished for the actions of their parents.
Kill Dat Noize
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you don't think people should have the right to pass their wealth down to their children?
How is inherited privilege unjust? If I have kids why shouldn't I be able to endow them with privilege I've earned?
Plus people ARE punished for the actions of their parents. You think a kid who loses their parents to prison or drug use will have the same chances of success as someone in a stable 2 parent home?
I think @Swavy Karl Marx's issue isn't with privilege or any of this diversionary nonsense. He wants to do away with classes entirely.
No, that is the most anti-meritocratic right imaginable. Monarchs, nobility, and landlords used the same right to enslave common people like you and me in the past. Today's super-rich do the same.
A tiny minority of people get lavishly rewarded for the hard work of their parents. They did nothing to earn that reward. All the rest of us get stuck with shyt all from our parents. And we didn't do nothing that they didn't, we didn't ask to be born and we certainly didn't ask to be born outside of a highly privileged background. So while a tiny few get rewarded, everybody else gets punished for who their parents were. It's like saying if your father was a murderer, the next three generations have to pay the same penalty.
Now I'm not a communist. I think it's only fair that people who achieve higher get paid better and have better lifestyles than people who're lazy and untalented. But inheritance fukks up the game. I'm not talking about your parents leaving you the family home or a little bit of money, I'm talking about huge estates worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars.
Kill Dat Noize
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it's the complete opposite actually. most people are primarily driven by their desire to provide for their family and future generations. if people are no longer allowed to do as such, what incentive would they have to keep working and keep contributing?
it's no one's fault that some people are born into poverty. if you feel bad for those people, by all means nothing is stopping from you lending a helping hand. but for government to step in and take from those who were born more fortunate just to balance the scales not only goes against the natural order but it discourages self improvement and self growth, the very things that are necessary for a strong economy.
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88m3
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#Especially
And the govt does take from those people. The initial income is taxed, it's tax again at inheritance, and then taxed again if any capital gains are realized from investing it. Those taxes pay for entitlement programs for the less fortunate.
Again what it really seems to boil down to is people take issue with someone having a lot. Thing is, most millionaires + billionaires these days are self made.
So going after people who inherit their wealth won't do much- they do a good job of giving their inheritances back without government action.You nikkas worry bout the rawng thangs, the rawng thangs
AlainLocke
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If people see no problem with employers and capitalists taking the majority of the profits from workers, using a pool of readily available workers to drive down wages, using tax loopholes to prevent their incomes being taxed, buying lobbyists and NGOs to swing laws in their favor then LMAO...
When people will understand that being a capitalist means being an exploiter of people for profit?
When people will understand that being a capitalist means being an exploiter of people for profit?
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
@Swavy Karl Marx did you read the article?
By society's standards I guess. It's still privilege tho regardless
My issue would be in how they accumulated that wealth
Yep
Nah