How to Stop Conservatives Power of Messaging?

[Adeptus Astartes]

I don’t care

Sec 230 ain't going nowhere.

 

[mastermind]

Sec 230 ain't going nowhere.

Then this thread don’t need to be made because that is a source of the problem.

 

[88m3]

education, regulation, criminalization


violence is also an option as we're reaching a point of no return anyways

 

[voltronblack]

Conservatives talking Points spread super fast online. They have Power over a Lot of Bubbles. They can destroy Any political opponent. Algorithms Love MAGA content cause it promotes Engagement. Nobody fukks with bluesky.

How to normalize social Media? Is there even a way or is this the new reality and im Just becoming old and Out of Touch?

Bruh, the problem is that the right wing owns the platforms — that's really all there is to it. Look at Twitter/X with Musk and Facebook with Mark. You can't beat the owners of the platforms themselves when they align with the right, no matter how good your message is. That's just how it is

 

[yseJ]

You can't. People have to organically see the light. If you just forbid or close down sites that messaging will be further invigorated.


You'd have to fully deanonymize internet including forbidding vpns and everything of the nature. Which is honestly a bigger can of worms to open.

 

[Regular_P]

Bruh, the problem is that the right wing owns the platforms — that's really all there is to it. Look at Twitter/X with Musk and Facebook with Mark. You can't beat the owners of the platforms themselves when they align with the right, no matter how good your message is. That's just how it is

And all the mainstream media. NY Times is a conservative rag now.

 

[DEAD7]

the problem with your assumption is "conservative = bad" which is why you will never be able to "stop" it.

This.

 

[DEAD7]

Dems are just terrible at messaging... even when they have the winning message. Framing it as "change is more difficult" hides this truth and ensures things won't get better on the communication front.

 

[Pure Water]

Honestly, I just don't know. A lie travels fast and the truth often goes under reported. Media companies have been placating to Trump and Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram are cesspools for misinformation.

I think we're cooked.

 

[Loose]

Well they own all media outforms rather social media newspapers old media etc, you'd have to start there

This sounds dark but Outside of a civil war i dont see much changing

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Dems are just terrible at messaging... even when they have the winning message. Framing it as "change is more difficult" hides this truth and ensures things won't get better on the communication front.

Democrats *are* often bad at messaging, but treating that as the main problem ignores the structural reality we're up against. Messaging doesn't operate on a level playing field. The right has a massively subsidized media ecosystem and there are no penalties for lying. Better framing helps, but it doesn't overcome asymmetrical power by itself.

The largest problem is algorithmic amplification and the incentives behind them. These social media platforms optimize for engagement, outrage, fear, and grievance. Those things outperform nuance every time. Right-wing messaging is structurally aligned with that incentive model, so it gets amplified. Ownership bias and weak enforcement make it worse, but the core issue is profit-driven algorithms rewarding the loudest and angriest content. And that's something that needs to be regulated.

 

[The Bilingual Gringo]

Republicans are good at the simple, vague messaging, like “America First” What does that even mean? They know how stupid the average American is, and they take advantage of it.

Dems have to show that they actually care about people. Sucks that the burden of proof is in action.

 

[DEAD7]

Democrats *are* often bad at messaging, but treating that as the main problem ignores the structural reality we're up against. Messaging doesn't operate on a level playing field. The right has a massively subsidized media ecosystem and there are no penalties for lying. Better framing helps, but it doesn't overcome asymmetrical power by itself.

The largest problem is algorithmic amplification and the incentives behind them. These social media platforms optimize for engagement, outrage, fear, and grievance. Those things outperform nuance every time. Right-wing messaging is structurally aligned with that incentive model, so it gets amplified. Ownership bias and weak enforcement make it worse, but the core issue is profit-driven algorithms rewarding the loudest and angriest content. And that's something that needs to be regulated.

Agreed, but being at a disadvantage makes messaging effectively even more important, and the Dems failure to do so much more glaring.

 

[DEAD7]

Republicans are good at the simple, vague messaging, like “America First” What does that even mean? They know how stupid the average American is, and they take advantage of it.

So youre saying Republicans are better politicians

 

[The Bilingual Gringo]

So youre saying Republicans are better politicians

In that face value sense, yes. But that just means they’re better at fukking people over. At least Dems can historically show their work.