How was Biggie able to pass Rakim, Kane, G Rap as the KONY with a limited catalog.

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this fat ass biggie took 4 shots and died within minutes due to lack of fitness

pac took 4 shots including shots to the lungs and lived for days.....

biggie is an embarrassment
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Who cares about that? Both nikkas died at the end of the day, Biggie left quick while Pac had to endure a slow painful death in the hospital
 

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dog, its well documented that Biggie stole Pac's album concept and used it on RTD. Trying to deny it is like trying to deny that The Realest is a Pac clone. Or that Fab was influenced by Jay.






come on dog...




the nikka is a clone


Hmmm, the first song has a loose concept similar to Suicidal Thoughts, but its poorly executed when compared to the masterpiece that is Suicidal Thoughts. Suicidal Thoughts is a fully actualized version of the Pac song, its also one of the most disturbing, chilling hip hop songs ever recorded.
I can see where Pac would have heard the two lines that reference suicide and come up with the idea for his song. It's not a bite though, since BIG did it in a more conceptual, creative and lyrical fashion. Bigs record is vastly superior, plus the concept was originally done by Scarface.

I don't see the connection between the second record and Everyday Struggle (which is another masterpiece). It's funny to me that you're putting Pac's D grade material up against Brooklyn's finest's finest.
 

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MATW, AEOM, & 7DT all have critical acclaim. All are better than any BI album. How do I have a bias against NY rappers and have Jigga in my top 3? And 2 more NY rappers in my top 10? Make sense dumbass.
IMO, either Big record is superior to any Pac record, because Big was more lyrical, but i can see how people would disagree. We're talking about 5 classic albums...
 

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This thread is supposed to about how B.I.G surpassed Ra, Kane & G Rap. as far that argument is concerned Pac is not really revenant.
 

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Hmmm, the first song has a loose concept similar to Suicidal Thoughts, but its poorly executed when compared to the masterpiece that is Suicidal Thoughts. Suicidal Thoughts is a fully actualized version of the Pac song, its also one of the most disturbing, chilling hip hop songs ever recorded.
I can see where Pac would have heard the two lines that reference suicide and come up with the idea for his song. It's not a bite though, since BIG did it in a more conceptual, creative and lyrical fashion. Bigs record is vastly superior, plus the concept was originally done by Scarface.

I don't see the connection between the second record and Everyday Struggle (which is another masterpiece). It's funny to me that you're putting Pac's D grade material up against Brooklyn's finest's finest.
You clearly dont get it... you just looking at song titles and ignoring lyrics. It obvious by you hailing those biggie tracks as "lyrical" those are in no way better in any fashion better than the Pac tracks... and those Pac tracks are from a shelved album. Pac's is executed MUCH better. Its going through the state of mind of a nikka who knows his days are numbered... "closed casket at my funeral and no ones there" that biggie shyt is so elementary I apologized to Pac for even making the comparison as I pressed reply.

As for the other tracks, they describe a certain lifestyle (a day in the life if you will). Biggies shyt didnt even have to do with an everyday struggle. And the tracks I'm postin are the tracks Biggie wished Pac released instead of MATW. And listening to these tracks like this highlights exactly how much better Pac was than the other nikka.
 

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You clearly dont get it... you just looking at song titles and ignoring lyrics. It obvious by you hailing those biggie tracks as "lyrical" those are in no way better in any fashion better than the Pac tracks... and those Pac tracks are from a shelved album. Pac's is executed MUCH better. Its going through the state of mind of a nikka who knows his days are numbered... "closed casket at my funeral and no ones there" that biggie shyt is so elementary I apologized to Pac for even making the comparison as I pressed reply.

As for the other tracks, they describe a certain lifestyle (a day in the life if you will). Biggies shyt didnt even have to do with an everyday struggle. And the tracks I'm postin are the tracks Biggie wished Pac released instead of MATW. And listening to these tracks like this highlights exactly how much better Pac was than the other nikka.
Pac has some good lines on the suicide track, but he doesn't stick to the topic well. Big just get's brutally fukking honest and makes you feel the shyt. "Crime after crime, from drugs to extortion/I know my momma wish she had a fukking abortion/cause she don't even love me like she did when I was younger"

If that's the best you can do for the other Pac song...then clearly there is no connection between that and Everyday Struggle.
Source for the claim Big wished Pac would have released these tracks?

These four songs show how clearly Big is a superior mc - but like I said - its a lopsided match to begin with.
 

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False. I have never seen a Tupac clone, never seen people flowing like him biting his lyrics, etc. Biggie is the most lyrically bitten rapper All-Time, there's a 10 part video on YouTube about it. I've seen guys like Fabolous mimic Big's flow and Shyne was a Big clone after he died.
Matter of fact Nas is more copied than Pac.

Nas is the most stanned and copied rapper

-Lupe
-J Cole
-Game
-Elhzi
-Fashawn
-Meka
-Was the first to put a baby picture on this album. Copied by Biggie, Common, Lil Wayne, etc.
-Tupac copied Nas' Street Dreams beat, and also got the concept of "Me and My Girlfriend" From Nas' "I Gave you Power" (Which Tupac said himself)
 
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Nas is the most stanned and copied rapper

-Lupe
-J Cole
-Game
-Elhzi
-Fashawn
-Meka
-Was the first to put a baby picture on this album. Copied by Biggie, Common, Lil Wayne, etc.
-Tupac copied Nas' Street Dreams beat, and also got the concept of "Me and My Girlfriend" From Nas' "I Gave you Power" (Which Tupac said himself)

and don't forget AZ, Willie the Kid, Akir, Nature, and ect.
 
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