How Xbox Became Microsoft's Greatest Failure

[Greenhornet]

almost a 4 year old stan thread
the whole point of "console wars" is weirdo shyt as usual
microsoft jumped into the console game just to be there ... this is where I will lose idiots
microsoft is worth 3.71 trillion as of today... we all know consoles are made as a profit loss
nobody is caring if they lose 100-200$ per console sold ... they make it up in other areas
once people stop denying that xbox and microsoft are synonymous they will stop saying dumb shyt and denying that pc isnt an offshoot of the entire company

xbox will also never be with nintendo or sony in sales, its just not realistic
sony has nostalgia factor, international reach and a niche audience which is directly related to gaming and all of its offshoots
nintendo has its own lane completely... has the real nostalgia factor to most gaming fans and is also international
the fact is, asia came in and beat us decades before we even stepped into the game
nobody from most counties is gonna choose xbox over their own shyt... its just not realistic
to think a company with 3.71 net worth cant develop is ignorance... the point was never to do so
just like the zune, which is alot worse... it was just to get into the game, compete and take a portion of the pie
technically selling 32.98 is a success because those 32.98 million would have just bought a sony ... so that's basically robbing consumers on xbox half which is scummy to be real... making game pass and expecting them to sell to nintendo and sony is also scummy shyt too

I love xbox but sony weirdos should be pointing out how Xbox is trying to beg to even be involved in the first place. Just like hardware consoles, they are banking on Sony and Nintendo letting them in the game by cornering the market ... they are pulling the "If you dont let us be on your hardware we will blame you and tell people to buy more xbox to access" and then blame it on Sony and Nintendo. Its good business but scumbag shyt really... then again both companies did the same shyt to them reminds me of Elon ... he's just blowing up rockets and shyt, people laugh but he's doing it for fun he doesnt give a fukk really. Nintendo is Jordan Sony is Kobe and Xbox Is Lebron ... Lebron just out there gathering stats, jumping on other peoples waves and having fun. Nintendo came out first and set the blueprint and came original. Sony took the game and doubled it working off Nintendo and is coming for them. Lebron is the richest but has no substance.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Upper management makes shyt decisions fires a bunch of people then uses BS phrases like nimble and agile to dress up the firings but they never leave.

Yoshida from Sony was out for less. He got demoted and is now gone just because they said too many games were delayed on his watch. Jim Ryan is out for less.

Maybe your opinion on what’s a “shyt decision” doesn’t hold up outside of console wars

 

[winb83]

Maybe your opinion on what’s a “shyt decision” doesn’t hold up outside of console wars

The rest of the world doesn’t agree with you. Seems like every 6 months they’re firing large groups of people.

Their subscription service and console hardware numbers stalled out and we went from we bought Zenimax to make games on platforms where Game Pass exist to it’s just these 4 games going to PlayStation to there aren’t and games off the table.

The legacy Xbox business is in shambles but the numbers are masked by the parent company going out and buying entire publishers that mask those numbers and say this is Xbox best quarter ever. It’s achieved by buying successful companies others built up because management can’t build their own successful company any other way.

We’re down to Gears, Halo, and Forza Horizon. Almost everything else of value was built by other companies or started by them before an acquisition.

 

[drifter]

almost a 4 year old stan thread
the whole point of "console wars" is weirdo shyt as usual
microsoft jumped into the console game just to be there ... this is where I will lose idiots
microsoft is worth 3.71 trillion as of today... we all know consoles are made as a profit loss
nobody is caring if they lose 100-200$ per console sold ... they make it up in other areas
once people stop denying that xbox and microsoft are synonymous they will stop saying dumb shyt and denying that pc isnt an offshoot of the entire company

xbox will also never be with nintendo or sony in sales, its just not realistic
sony has nostalgia factor, international reach and a niche audience which is directly related to gaming and all of its offshoots
nintendo has its own lane completely... has the real nostalgia factor to most gaming fans and is also international
the fact is, asia came in and beat us decades before we even stepped into the game
nobody from most counties is gonna choose xbox over their own shyt... its just not realistic
to think a company with 3.71 net worth cant develop is ignorance... the point was never to do so
just like the zune, which is alot worse... it was just to get into the game, compete and take a portion of the pie
technically selling 32.98 is a success because those 32.98 million would have just bought a sony ... so that's basically robbing consumers on xbox half which is scummy to be real... making game pass and expecting them to sell to nintendo and sony is also scummy shyt too

I love xbox but sony weirdos should be pointing out how Xbox is trying to beg to even be involved in the first place. Just like hardware consoles, they are banking on Sony and Nintendo letting them in the game by cornering the market ... they are pulling the "If you dont let us be on your hardware we will blame you and tell people to buy more xbox to access" and then blame it on Sony and Nintendo. Its good business but scumbag shyt really... then again both companies did the same shyt to them reminds me of Elon ... he's just blowing up rockets and shyt, people laugh but he's doing it for fun he doesnt give a fukk really. Nintendo is Jordan Sony is Kobe and Xbox Is Lebron ... Lebron just out there gathering stats, jumping on other peoples waves and having fun. Nintendo came out first and set the blueprint and came original. Sony took the game and doubled it working off Nintendo and is coming for them. Lebron is the richest but has no substance.

"Microsoft jumped into the console game just to be there this is where I will lose idiots"

Ironic lol. They didn't get in to get in. They saw the PS1 doing what Nintendo & Sega didn't and hurt PC sales with more mature titles on a home console. Xbox was made to claw people back under MS. It was made to beat Playstation, that was its purpose execs back then said so

And that's always been the difference and why they can't figure out success in video games or anything involving hardware (MS branded PCs, Zune, Windows Phone). One was made because Nintendo cancelled the partnership and left them with hardware and connections in the industry for software, so they put the two together. The other was made because suits wanted profit they lost back. One you get a bit creativity out of trying different shyt, the other wants a formula that works until the wheels fall off and you get what you have now, people tired of getting fed a steady formula of the same shyt. Zune barely had any portion of the pie and wasn't competitive which is why it left quicker than it came, they tried Windows Phone for a little bit longer but the same thing happened.

Sony & Nintendo don't have to do shyt they don't want to just because MS wants them to. MS sending Xbox to die like Zune & WP is irrelevant to their business. Them "blaming" Nintendo & Sony so far has worked out great for Xbox sales lmao. If it makes dollars and sense you will see GP on those consoles. If it doesn't, you won't. Nobody gives af what MS wants or they'd do what MS wants....buy Xboxes. And nobody in their right mind is doing that which is why they're following Sega and moving to publishing.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The rest of the world doesn’t agree with you.

The rest of the world are buying enough xbox products that the leadership and investors are very happy with where xbox is right now.

Seems like every 6 months they’re firing large groups of people.

You guys get caught up in the headlines.

Xbox is ALWAYS hiring as well. There’s been a net positive increase in employees at xbox over recent years.

These “layoffs” are usually restructuring and moving employees around. Not reducing headcount.

Sony has closed more studios, canceled more games and actually drastically reduced their headcount in recent years, yet it’s crickets on that front from you and your fellow cult members.

Their subscription service

Game Pass sets quarterly revenue record, sees 30% growth in PC subscribers

There’s been a lot of questions about how Xbox’s Game Pass subscription service will fare as the company aims to grow its subscriber base while also

xboxera.com

and console hardware numbers stalled out and

Xbox's Console User Count At Record High, Says Microsoft Gaming CEO

"When everybody plays, we all win"

www.purexbox.com

we went from we bought Zenimax to make games on platforms where Game Pass exist to

More cac tweet narratives.

Microsoft deciding ‘case-by-case’ about future Bethesda games on PS5, Switch

Exclusivity is the billion-dollar question

www.polygon.com

In reality Zenimx games were “case by case” from jump.

it’s just these 4 games going to PlayStation to there aren’t and games off the table.

Microsoft’s gaming chief on Xbox games coming to PS5, next-gen hardware, and more

Microsoft wants to grow Xbox in new ways.

www.theverge.com

They never said those 4 games would be it. Thats another cac tweet narrative you all hold on to.

In reality from day one he said those games would be a test and more would probably be coming.

The legacy Xbox business is in shambles

This is your perception cause you get your “news” and perspectives from the sony cult.

In reality the xbox business has never been better. Hence the microsoft ceo being VERY happy with xbox leadership.

but the numbers are masked by the parent company going out and buying entire publishers that mask those numbers and say this is Xbox best quarter ever.

Microsoft breaks all-time earnings record amid recent Xbox success - Dexerto

Microsoft breaks all-time earnings record in Q1 2024, driven by Xbox Series S/X success, Game Pass, and hit game Starfield.

www.dexerto.com

Before activision

It’s achieved by buying successful companies others built up because management can’t build their own successful company any other way.

All companies purchase other things.

You sony stan’s harp on this point cause it somehow helps you keep up your alternate reality.

We’re down to Gears, Halo, and Forza Horizon. Almost everything else of value was built by other companies or started by them before an acquisition.

You create these little pockets of semantics to ignore and discredit things on one side then you ignore the same on the other side.

Spider-man is a great success for sony and worthy of praise. Despite the IP and studio being licensed/purchased by sony.

Helldivers 2 PS5s most successful “exclusive” was not developed or conceived by sony and is not even exclusive anymore.

Seas of thieves don’t “count” because it didn’t make you jealous despite its huge success on every platform it’s touched.

At a point you have to realize your “opinion bubble” is not the real world.

You have the answer yourself yet you refuse to believe it.

Xbox execs are getting promotions and raises despite “loosing” the console war.

Playstation execs getting thrown in the bushes despite “winning” the console war, now sony is following in xbox footsteps as far as strategy.

Please ask yourself why reality is not matching up with your perception of things.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

And nobody in their right mind is doing that which is why they're following Sega and moving to publishing.

40+ million people have purchased xbox series x/s consoles and Microsoft is already developing new xbox hardware and signing deals with hardware makers for more hardware.

At some point yall gotta step into the real world and stop repeating nonsense the sony cult fed you.

 

[King Sun]

Naw, XBOX WON with 360. That whole gen destroyed Sony.

XBOX WON again with Game Pass. They getting closer and closer to taking over.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

40+ million people have purchased xbox series x/s consoles

Its funny how you go on for 5 years about console sales not mattering but here you are willing to lie about the numbers to make the series x/s look better lol

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Its funny how you go on for 5 years about console sales not mattering but here you are willing to lie about the numbers to make the series x/s look better lol

Didn’t lie about anything.

Thats where estimates are right now.

You cult members don’t live in reality.

 

[Fatboi1]

Didn’t lie about anything.

Thats where estimates are right now.

You cult members don’t live in reality.

Microsoft's latest video game consoles, the Xbox Series X|S, which is part of the ninth generation of video game consoles, has outsold the lifetime sales of the Nintendo 64, according to VGChartz estimates.


The Xbox Series X|S has sold an estimated 32.98 million units worldwide through April 2024, while the Nintendo 64 sold 32.93 million units lifetime.

Xbox Series X|S Outsells Nintendo 64

Microsoft's latest video game consoles, the Xbox Series X|S, which is part of the ninth generation of video [...]

www.vgchartz.com

That's impressive, it outsold one of the worst selling Nintendo consoles ever.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

You lot are still arguing?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Xbox Series X|S Outsells Nintendo 64

Microsoft's latest video game consoles, the Xbox Series X|S, which is part of the ninth generation of video [...]

www.vgchartz.com

That's impressive, it outsold one of the worst selling Nintendo consoles ever.

You guys only see console wars.

Even with that low estimate and 3-4 years of sales left it’s already sold way more than any console said to have “flopped”

Thats with them NOT selling consoles at loss, and holding games hostage to force console buyers.

If anything it’s proof of concept for their current strategy.

You cult members have problems with reality tho

 

[winb83]

40+ million people have purchased xbox series x/s consoles and Microsoft is already developing new xbox hardware and signing deals with hardware makers for more hardware.

At some point yall gotta step into the real world and stop repeating nonsense the sony cult fed you.

Down from 80 million on the 360. Down from 60 million on the Xbox One. Now we're at 40 million and that's mostly before they started adding games to former competitors platforms.

The Xbox name is now on Meta VR headsets and Rog Ally portable PCs.

Microsoft Gaming is mostly a holding company that acquires other companies and Xbox is a meaningless brand that confuses consumers and is slapped on devices that have nothing to do with each other. Some of them don't even run the same core software.

Even if you say Sony stalled out they're in the hundred million sold range. You're talking 2.5 to 3x Xbox numbers. Nintendo is also in the hundred million plus range.

The 40 million range Xbox is now at is basically the people looking to sub to Game Pass on a console. Everyone else just abandoned the brand.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

If microsoft release a new console next year i doubt they will even get to 40 million.

they’re probably at like 32-34m now

Estimated Xbox Series X and S Console Sales Numbers Revealed

A new report sheds some light on how well the Xbox family of consoles is doing, revealing some interesting numbers on the Xbox Series X/S.

gamerant.com

Take-Two has them at 30 milion

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Down from 80 million on the 360. Down from 60 million on the Xbox One. Now we're at 40 million and that's mostly before they started adding games to former competitors platforms.

Playstation is down 90 million from its highest selling console and is now putting its games on PC xbox and switch


We already established the console market has shrunk.

Thanks for pointing that out

The Xbox name is now on Meta VR headsets and Rog Ally portable PCs.

You mean the xbox brand is still valuable?

Crazy

Microsoft Gaming is mostly a holding company that acquires other companies and Xbox is a meaningless brand that confuses consumers and is slapped on devices that have nothing to do with each other. Some of them don't even run the same core software.

Sony cult opinions that don’t match up with real life

Even if you say Sony stalled out they're in the hundred million sold range. You're talking 2.5 to 3x Xbox numbers. Nintendo is also in the hundred million plus range.

Console warszz

The 40 million range Xbox is now at is basically the people looking to sub to Game Pass on a console. Everyone else just abandoned the brand.

Sony cult opinions