Howie Hawkins For President 2020 Thread

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just came out that Trump was planning nuclear weapons tests and people are like yeah lets vote third party

I can’t

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He's been running a lot longer than a recent news break - a lot of people don't know Howie Hawkins, Angela Walker, or the Green Party
 

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at least they didnt nominate david rolde :merchant:
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i think he came in third for them in votes
 

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I think the green's run for what it has been is over with. They don't have a viable brand and are too paranoid of being co-opted (rightfully so IMO) to actually become one. We need a new party, and the time to start building it is now. I'll settle for a Howie Hawkins ticket just to try and get him to the debates but I'm down with the movement for a peoples party.
 

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Russia accusations incoming...followed by Nazi accusations, then sexual assault.
I'm going to go with butt hurt Bernie voters this time around. :ehh:

I'm sure plenty of Russian boys will be amplifying their message though :yeshrug:
 

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I'm going to go with butt hurt Bernie voters this time around. :ehh:

I'm sure plenty of Russian boys will be amplifying their message though :yeshrug:
I'm sure the whole attack-rolodex will be expended by November. We should make bets on the order they come out :lolbron:
I'm sure. They amplify any and all messages that contribute to Americans hating eachother :francis:
 

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I'm sure the whole attack-rolodex will be expended by November. We should make bets on the order they come out :lolbron:
I'm sure. They amplify any and all messages that contribute to Americans hating eachother :francis:
Come up with some scenarios. I need to get the sports book popping.

This election season is going to be retarded.

I doubt there will be very little discussion of actual policies.

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I was joking back when the primaries started that this could look like "grumpier old men":francis:
 

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:ehh:the Green Party doesn't do anything worthwhile until it's election season.
They’ve pretty openly worked constantly on issues of ecology and environmentalism/environmental racism for decades now. The turn to electoralism is a far more recent trend for the Greens.
I think the green's run for what it has been is over with. They don't have a viable brand and are too paranoid of being co-opted (rightfully so IMO) to actually become one. We need a new party, and the time to start building it is now. I'll settle for a Howie Hawkins ticket just to try and get him to the debates but I'm down with the movement for a peoples party.
I’d actually think the opposite - they’re the largest third party in the US - and all of the “movement for a people’s party“ has simply lead to the immediate liberal media Crucifixtion of DSA and the sloppy reintroduction of the Libertarians, whose ideologies exist from libertarian socialism to anarcho-capitalism and have never had a coherent message.
 

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They’ve pretty openly worked constantly on issues of ecology and environmentalism/environmental racism for decades now. The turn to electoralism is a far more recent trend for the Greens.

I’d actually think the opposite - they’re the largest third party in the US - and all of the “movement for a people’s party“ has simply lead to the immediate liberal media Crucifixtion of DSA and the sloppy reintroduction of the Libertarians, whose ideologies exist from libertarian socialism to anarcho-capitalism and have never had a coherent message.

They have been around for a lifetime at this point. And while I know what they're up against, they haven't made a ton of progress and unless they're able to court some serious celebrity they will continue dog paddling and offering up policies for democrats to co-opt and water down. I don't see them being able to attract a big enough crowd or coalition to do what needs to be done.

I think you can bypass some of that loser/joke stigma, do more towards earned media and scooping up people who like green policy but aren't excited about them as a movement with a new party operating as a container for the OWS/Sandernistas at the foundation.

Unfortunately...you need celebrity. Jesse Ventura would have been the most dynamic/viable green candidate that I can think off off the top of my head and even that's kind of short of what could be done if Bernie had decided to go third party. It just seems like a conventional party that will always be seen as the hippie section of the democratic party for them to peel off and steal from.

I think we gotta go a different route.
 
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