HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for some low-income Americans

[Colilluminati]

Spoken like someone with only a cursory knowledge of the section 8 program. Do you know what the income limits are for section 8 in your city? The people on the program can't afford to pay for rent, childcare and health care on their own. That's why they're on a rental assistance program. That's why the law and program regulations currently takes into account the cost of childcare, disability related expenses and medical expenses that some families incur.

Note that I said medical expenses and health care not insurance, because as the poster above mentioned medical deductions are for any covered medical expenses if the family qualifies for the deductions. Some families might be on Medicare or Medicaid that covers some of their medical expenses, their deductions would be for whatever they pay out of pocket.

You and a handful of other dudes will debate me for no reason at all . I’m not even supporting Ben Carson or republicans I’m just speaking facts. Once again your just rambling about a bunch of nothing .


Majority of public housing/ section 8 reciepients are required to either work or go to school full time .You don’t get a deduction because your not working to watch your kids


Let me help you understand something .


If you qualify for section 8 then there is a 99% chance you also qualify for food stamps and childcare and insurance . All paid for by the government . Look it up . They all pretty much follow the same income restrictions.

You MIGHT have to pay a co pay towards child care .

These doctor bills and transportation bills and medical bills your talking about aren’t real. Your just telling me what you think is going on .


I can 100% guarantee you will never meet a woman paying for child care and insurance out of pocket and still receive section 8. LEGALLY


People literally take they husband/boyfriend off they’re cases to avoid losing the benefits because by the government standards that’s too much money for the household .


Think about what your telling me .

A single mother struggling to survive is paying child care out of pocket and insurance .


Do you know how much the average daycare charges a week? Do you know what insurance costs out of pocket?

Coli nikkas just rambling .

Y’all really think people pay for insurance out of pocket and childcare out of pocket then get it deducted from section 8



Yo neither one of you fukking idiots quote me please


Y’all so stuck on Trump y’all will say anything .

Imagine a world where a mother with 3 kids will pay hundreds of dollars a month for insurance and hundreds, if not a thousand dollars a month in child care out of pocket

Then get it deducted off her rent


She wouldn’t even need section 8 at that point


You have to fall under income guidelines just to get section 8 . You don’t make a bunch of money and then show the government all the bills your paying to get your rent reduced


Call me James said they deduct for transportation


I can tell y’all never been in the hood . Medicaid will send a car to your crib and take you to the doctor FOR FREE

 

[chico25]

Coli nikkas just rambling .

Y’all really think people pay for insurance out of pocket and childcare out of pocket then get it deducted from section 8



Yo neither one of you fukking idiots quote me please


Y’all so stuck on Trump y’all will say anything .

Imagine a world where a mother with 3 kids will pay hundreds of dollars a month for insurance and hundreds, if not a thousand dollars a month in child care out of pocket

Then get it deducted off her rent


She wouldn’t even need section 8 at that point


You have to fall under income guidelines just to get section 8 . You don’t make a bunch of money and then show the government all the bills your paying to get your rent reduced


Call me James said they deduct for transportation


I can tell y’all never been in the hood . Medicaid will send a car to your crib and take you to the doctor FOR FREE

Yes some people get government assistance for these costs, that doesn't automatically mean they pay nothing out of pocket. There are people with great health insurance through their jobs that still have to pay some out of pocket costs for prescriptions and doctor visits. What makes you think people on Medicare and Medicaid don't have those same expenses. You just admitted yourself that childcare costs are high but assumed that the allotment the government gives to some lower income families is enough to cover the full cost when that's not always the case.

I haven't brought politics into this, mentioned Trump or taken a side. I've given facts on how the program currently works and how the proposed changes would effect the program.

If you want to know how the law is written, look up 24 CFR 5.611 and 24 CFR 5.603.

Then get back to me.

Edit to add: 24 CFR 5.630 for the people interested in being informed.

 

[Alpha Male]

30% of your income on rent is too much if you make 20000 a year...150 is way too much for someone working 15 hrs a week @ 7.25...that is almost 35% gross income spent on rent...

I was paying 30% of my income on rent for years and that was without govt assistance


here’s a bright idea maybe they should work more than 15 hours a week

 

[Colilluminati]

Yes some people get government assistance for these costs, that doesn't automatically mean they pay nothing out of pocket. There are people with great health insurance through their jobs that still have to pay some out of pocket costs for prescriptions and doctor visits. What makes you think people on Medicare and Medicaid don't have those same expenses. You just admitted yourself that childcare costs are high but assumed that the allotment the government gives to some lower income families is enough to cover the full cost when that's not always the case.

I haven't brought politics into this, mentioned Trump or taken a side. I've given facts on how the program currently works and how the proposed changes would effect the program.

If you want to know how the law is written, look up 24 CFR 5.611 and 24 CFR 5.603.

Then get back to me.

Just stop quoting me . Just a bunch of rambling .

 

[chico25]

Just stop quoting me . Just a bunch of rambling .

Nothing of substance to stand on beyond talking points. Won't look at the law he's arguing about. Ignored.

 

[Colilluminati]

Nothing of substance to stand on beyond talking points. Won't look at the law he's arguing about. Ignored.

We are having two separate conversations . I’m telling you it’s impossible to pay for childcare or insurance out of pocket and still qualify for section 8 .


I don’t know what your talking about . Your confused .

 

[bright black]

I was paying 30% of my income on rent for years and that was without govt assistance


here’s a bright idea maybe they should work more than 15 hours a week

even if people making minimum wage worked 40 hrs a week 30% of income spent on rent is too much...what you spent on rent is irrelevant and does not change the fact that how much you should spend on rent is based on how much you make and 30% - 35% is too much for poor people...you can google how much to spend on rent if you think im making it up...

 

[Alpha Male]

even if people making minimum wage worked 40 hrs a week 30% of income spent on rent is too much...what you spent on rent is irrelevant and does not change the fact that how much you should spend on rent is based on how much you make and 30% - 35% is too much for poor people...you can google how much to spend on rent if you think im making it up...

why can’t they live with a roommate and share the costs?

if you’re working a minimum wage job then obviously you are going to have to make certain cutbacks for the meantime.

people shouldn’t be entitled to their own apartment should they?

 

[afterlife2009]

Class warfare

 

[88m3]

HUD’s proposed rent hikes on low-income families would affect thousands of New Yorkers

 

[Colilluminati]

why can’t they live with a roommate and share the costs?

if you’re working a minimum wage job then obviously you are going to have to make certain cutbacks for the meantime.

people shouldn’t be entitled to their own apartment should they?

This might be the worst post ever . You telling me a woman and her 2 kids should share an apartment ? With a fukking roommate ?

A husband and wife both working, raising a family , paying rent, should share an apartment?

This is what section 8/public housing is for , so things like that aren’t normal .


Let’s say I make $1000 a month and my wife makes a $1000 a month . We’re gonne pay $600 in rent . That’s not bad at all . Now if I work and my wife don’t , then I’m paying $300 a month . That’s WAY too much . There are a lot of elderly on section 8/public housing/senior buildings . Social Security check $789 paying 30% of that . That’s not fair at all . Imagine asking them to get a roommate

 

[Alpha Male]

This might be the worst post ever . You telling me a woman and her 2 kids should share an apartment ? With a fukking roommate ?

A husband and wife both working, raising a family , paying rent, should share an apartment?

This is what section 8/public housing is for , so things like that aren’t normal .


Let’s say I make $1000 a month and my wife makes a $1000 a month . We’re gonne pay $600 in rent . That’s not bad at all . Now if I work and my wife don’t , then I’m paying $300 a month . That’s WAY too much . There are a lot of elderly on section 8/public housing/senior buildings . Social Security check $789 paying 30% of that . That’s not fair at all . Imagine asking them to get a roommate

You’re telling me both the husband and wife are working and they still can’t afford an apartment?

I’ve never heard of that.

 

[88m3]

This might be the worst post ever . You telling me a woman and her 2 kids should share an apartment ? With a fukking roommate ?

A husband and wife both working, raising a family , paying rent, should share an apartment?

This is what section 8/public housing is for , so things like that aren’t normal .


Let’s say I make $1000 a month and my wife makes a $1000 a month . We’re gonne pay $600 in rent . That’s not bad at all . Now if I work and my wife don’t , then I’m paying $300 a month . That’s WAY too much . There are a lot of elderly on section 8/public housing/senior buildings . Social Security check $789 paying 30% of that . That’s not fair at all . Imagine asking them to get a roommate

the link I posted above had some decent information

I think the elderly and disabled will be safe.

My first concern is people on fixed incomes and the disabled. Social Security can't keep pace with the cost of living.

I hope there's data to support what they're implementing.

 

[Colilluminati]

You’re telling me both the husband and wife are working and they still can’t afford an apartment?

I’ve never heard of that.

That’s why you ain’t talking about shyt . You don’t even know anyone in a poor household . Lol you don’t even know what a struggle is .

 

[Pressure]

Call me James said they deduct for transportation

Yes, they do deduct for transportation related to medical costs.


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