Human garbage Ted Cruz introduces bill to impose term limits

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I'm suspicious as to why Cruz of all people would propose this even though I absolutely agree with term limits
he's already set for life with some "consulting" job when he leaves politics :yeshrug: they all are. i think he's come to realize that he'll never be presidnet

dude is a piece of shyt, but ive seen him say this before
 

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Unnecessary in my opinion and steps on the will of the electorate.

If Kentucky wants a piece of shyt to represent them for decades and ruin the country they have that right. It is democracy after all.
 

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What's the argument in favor of term limits? We've had them here in Michigan for a while for state officials.

Well, as any constitutional scholar could have predicted, the federal courts immediately struck down the part of the law that applied to congressmen and senators.

You’d have to amend the U.S. Constitution to change their terms. But voters here did have the power to impose term limits on state officials. And the result has been disaster.

That’s been apparent for years to anyone familiar with Lansing. But that’s further validated by an important new report from the Citizens Research Council of Michigan, which has done high-quality, non-partisan policy research for more than a century.

Wayne State University professors Dr. Marjorie Sarbaugh-Thompson and her husband, Lyke Thompson have been studying the effects of term limits in this state almost since they began, and the Citizens Research Council report is essentially based on their findings.

To summarize, term limits were sold to the public as a way to end career politicians, make elections more competitive, and increase diversity among elected officials.

Term limits have done none of that. While they did increase the number of women lawmakers briefly, that number then went back down. What they have done is cause our legislators to see their jobs as a stepping stone to their next office, and they’ve vastly increased the influence of lobbyists and special interests, and severely damaged our state.


Legislators lack the experience and the institutional knowledge they used to have, are less and less able to find bipartisan solutions, and the constant need to run for their next office has sapped “their will to confront politically difficult issues.”

The result: “In the decade from 2002 to 2012, Michigan was the only state that decreased its spending on municipal governments and the services they provide, making local governments the big losers under term limits.” Lawmakers today pay less attention to what folks at home need and want, and this has had devastating consequences.


The Citizens Research Council report found that the main problem lies not in the term limits themselves, but in the fact that of the 15 states that have them, Michigan’s are the shortest and strictest. Lawmakers can serve six years in the house, eight in the senate and then they are banned for life. Ohio limits their representatives to two terms in each chamber.

But they can then sit out a term and come back, or jump from chamber to chamber, so there is always some institutional memory. There is broad agreement on two things in government circles today: Term limits are terrible, but there is no way to repeal them because they are popular with the public. Well, accepting that isn’t leadership.

Leadership means educating voters and working for change. Otherwise, Michigan seems bound to continue to go down the drain.

The truth about term limits
 

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Unnecessary in my opinion and steps on the will of the electorate.

If Kentucky wants a piece of shyt to represent them for decades and ruin the country they have that right. It is democracy after all.
because unseating a senator isn't that simple after they've accumulated a two or 3 decade war chest, and that amount of influence

you guys are something fukkin else :mjlol: what if obama had proposed this? hillary? would you dare to support it then?
 

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because unseating a senator isn't that simple after they've accumulated a two or 3 decade war chest, and that amount of influence

you guys are something fukkin else :mjlol: what if obama had proposed this? hillary? would you dare to support it then?
I told you my reasons. Accept it or move on.

Setting term limits only increases the influence of lobbyist and king makers.

Here's a novel idea. Get out and vote. :wow:
 

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for someone who sucks america's proverbial dikk as much as you do, keep in mind that washington setting the 2 term precedent was one of the greatest things in human history :wow:


The president should be longer if he's getting the votes across the country, 8 years and then everything unraveling thereafter and risking the direction of country seems stupid
 
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