Husky paag explains why China is more advanced than you realize

[Pull Up the Roots]

I'm a capitalist and generally not cheerleader for China, but I admire what they've done and I agree. They're authoritarian, and while I don't agree or desire this type of government, the key to maintaining an authoritarian government is rising quality of life. China genuinely seems like they know they need to run that GINI score up or a billion people will come knocking.

The US for all the individualism and don't tread on me rhetoric is just coping bullshyt. The billionaire class here clearly wants a bunch of partisan, porn-addicted, uneducated consumers reliant on the corporation; a corporation that is focused on saving a dollar at any cost, usually the consumer themselves.

The key to maintaining an authoritarian regime is through brutally crushing dissent and total control over the populace. Rising quality of life can help buy compliance, but that's not the engine of authoritarian stability. The engine is the police state, and the knowledge that stepping out of line can cost you your life or your family's future.

China's success is not primarily an example of "good governance" or enlightened technocracy. A huge part of their stability comes from the fact that people who challenge the state get imprisoned, erased, or worse. That's not a model to admire. China's authoritarianism is about maintaining state power at all costs. America's dysfunction is about elite extraction and profit maximization.

We all understand how the billionaire class here exploits people, and oppose that exploitation. People also need to understand how China's ruling class is not driven by benevolence or a desire to uplift the masses. They're authoritarian because they believe they have the right to dictate every aspect of life, and they'll crush anyone who says otherwise.

One is corporate oligarchy; the other is state-enforced obedience. Neither is liberation.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

As time goes on the issues people used to point out about China to juelz about why China is more advanced in some areas are becoming less and less relevant since the U.S now has the same issues

Police State
Citizens under surveillance
Middle/lower class basically being wage slaves
Entrenched political elite who's families reap benefits through nepotism and corruption and no real grassroots way to change the system
A "King" who every one needs to bow to, including private corporations
The country tilting the scale for certain companies, international projects being gifted as favor, private companies getting pledges of billions of tax payer money before the companies even start the work

U.S does all of this shyt out in the open now and we get ZERO of the benefits that China at least gives their population
We still have shyt educational system, shyt infrastructure, high ass crime both petty and violent, bureaucracy, price gouging on every level of retail, half the country is basically brainwashed

I'm not pro China, never even been there, but all the excuses and arguments about how U.S is so much better quality of life wise is starting to really sound hollow

Bro, they'd throw you in prison in China for even making this post.. Are you crazy?

 

[Bugzbunny129]

I live off the grid biiiiitch.

 

[desjardins]

Bro, they'd throw you in prison in China for even making this post.. Are you crazy?

People get arrested in the U.S for protesting now and you can lose your livelihood (and be deported if on a visa) if you talk about a certain group

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

People get arrested in the U.S for protesting now and you can lose your livelihood (and be deported if on a visa) if you talk about a certain group

I know you aren't seriously trying to compare the two?

This is what I'm talking about. It's ok to state facts and not try and make monumental leaps


Yes, you CAN be illegally arrested while protesting. In China, you can be legally arrested, tried and given a DEATH SENTENCE for SPEAKING against the government

Remember when Darryl Mory even thought about saying something crazy like "Hong Kong should be free" and they took the entire NBA off TV in the entire country

 

[BonafideDefacto]

I’m just gonna drop my two cents and keep it moving. I’m not interested in any arguments or debates. It’s too early for that. Ive spent a decent amount of time in China for work and leisure over the last 15 years. I’ll start off by saying…every country has R&D… China implements their R&D faster than any other country. They have surpassed both South Korea and Japan in functional everyday technology. What I mean by this is they are able to streamline innovative, technological, advancements into everyday life due to not having the limitations of free market capitalism. To better explain this to you, the implementation of technology through innovation to the general public will always be beset on profits and who’s benefiting. Over the past 30 years China has been flirting with the fine line of globalization and western influence while trying to maintain their socialist market economy. Over the past 20 years we have educated tens of thousands of Chinese in our greatest institutions teaching them our ways only for them to go back home and implement the positives of our ideals, while weeding out the negatives. Nationalism here, driven by ignorance continues to be our greatest threat versus China. From a foreign policy perspective, They are watching our bully tactics and studying our mistakes to boost foreign trade with resource heavy poor nations. Our current administration is making this even easier for them. I hate to break it to y’all, but that female in that video wasn’t telling any lies.

 

[Swirv]

China is worth visiting but not because some odd bodied pie face bytch built like the yuan symbol is suggesting so. She not cute at all bruv.

I’ve seen enough hype about China to want to see what’s real or not for myself. If I wouldn’t mind smashing this bitty, what’s it to you?

 

[Sterling Archer]

I’ve seen enough hype about China to want to see what’s real or not for myself. If I wouldn’t mind smashing this bitty, what’s it to you?

I didn’t say you shouldn’t visit China. In fact my post suggests that you actually should, just not for the reasons she gave.

And it’s nothing to me. nikkas fukk little fat, beat hoes all the time. Don’t bother me none but imma say as much if it’s brought to my attention.

 

[Big Mountain Hélà]

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I’m just gonna drop my two cents and keep it moving. I’m not interested in any arguments or debates. It’s too early for that. Ive spent a decent amount of time in China for work and leisure over the last 15 years. I’ll start off by saying…every country has R&D… China implements their R&D faster than any other country. They have surpassed both South Korea and Japan in functional everyday technology. What I mean by this is they are able to streamline innovative, technological, advancements into everyday life due to not having the limitations of free market capitalism. To better explain this to you, the implementation of technology through innovation to the general public will always be beset on profits and who’s benefiting. Over the past 30 years China has been flirting with the fine line of globalization and western influence while trying to maintain their socialist market economy. Over the past 20 years we have educated tens of thousands of Chinese in our greatest institutions teaching them our ways only for them to go back home and implement the positives of our ideals, while weeding out the negatives. Nationalism here, driven by ignorance continues to be our greatest threat versus China. From a foreign policy perspective, They are watching our bully tactics and studying our mistakes to boost foreign trade with resource heavy poor nations. Our current administration is making this even easier for them. I hate to break it to y’all, but that female in that video wasn’t telling any lies.

China doesn't have a "socialist market economy." It is not in a "transitionary period," nor is it a Dictatorship of the Proletariat. It is a capitalist system with state management. It has all the failings of a capitalist system - market competition, private ownership, a powerful capitalist class, massive real-estate speculation, and widespread labor exploitation, just all managed and coordinated by the state. It's branding and nothing more.

As Luxemburg said:

Socialist democracy begins simultaneously with the beginnings of the destruction of class rule and of the construction of socialism. It begins at the very moment of the seizure of power by the socialist party. It is not something that only begins in the promised land, after the foundations of the socialist economy are created.

The socialist system of society should only be, and can only be, the historical product of the self-acting class struggle of the working masses.

China suppresses their working-class. Labor rights don't exist there.

The rest of your argument is just rationalizing trading EVERYTHING away for the sake of authoritarian efficiency. Would you want that here? Would anyone?

Is this supposed to be good?