“I am A Foundational Black American” - Ryan Coogler

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This is not true.

Idk where you're from, but I'm northeast and so many of us have lineal ties both international and domestic so why would we hate on ya'll?

Ya'll literally family to us.

My maternal grandmother is from Stone Mountain, Georgia. I literally LOOK like her side of the family the most.

This antagonism doesn't exist irl, it's really only found online because of Tariq being an online presence.

FBA is a workable definition but for his association.

That's how life works.

Something means something cool, someone toxic misrepresents or poisons it, a new symbol is found.

See the Swastika before Hitler.


Before Tariq grifted off of ADOS and when ADOS was the dominate term y'all were still hating.


This is also before Yvette Carnell started going off the rails.


Y'all were hating on the concept of us delineating.
 

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No different than a Black from England whose people came there from Nigeria playing FBA roles in film, but stating loud and clear every chance they get that their roots are from elsewhere.

Before FBA/ADOS was even a concept, I’ve seen people from various parts of Africa and the Caribbean insist, and in the strongest terms, that they weren’t “Black” (to make it clear that they weren’t one of us}, but were Jamaican or Haitian or whatever nationality they were. And these were real life discussions and debates going back decades, not internet shyt. How many times have we had to suffer through some arrogant foreigner telling us we have no “culture” etc.?

FBA came about largely as a response to that, and to help fulfill a political necessity. So we thank you all for drawing attention to that need and showing us the way.

Outstanding work @CHICAGO getting that traitor outta here. He’s the kind that would infiltrate a sincere FBA organization doing good work and bring it down from the inside thinking he’s striking a blow for Pan-Africanism, even though he’s no Pan-Africanist either. He’s an ignorant man without a country. People like him should be banished from among our ranks eternally, and then we’ll see how that type fares when they discover how some of those other groups really feel about them.
That’s cool and all but one thing that all people with 4c hair have in common is getting at people who look like them and glazing people that look different than them.

They alledgelly shyt on Black americans and welcome chinese into Africa and we shyt on Africans and eat chinese food religiously.

I just saw a youtube channel from former Satmar Hasidic chick praising the gruop economics of Hasidim in New York

If any Black People FBA or non FBA moved like Hasidics we’d achieve our goals.

The FBA thing is not just an Internet thing but whatever pushback that you’d give Africans is solely on the internet.
 

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Ryan said his ancestry before America was in Africa, I thought FBAs were not allowed to say that:jbhmm:
You can say anything you want but yes that’s against FBA orthodoxy because if you admitted Genetic and historical ties to Africa it would seem kinda crazy to make it your mission to diss Africans.

The cultural delination happens from birth the bushmeat jokes and voting for Trump to spite Africans is a political decision.
 

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Ryan said his ancestry before America was in Africa, I thought FBAs were not allowed to say that:jbhmm:
Everyone has ancestry from Africa.

Secondly, Ancestry and Lineage are not the same thing.

I have Black American lineage, and West African Ancestry.

The former is more important by the way.
 

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There really isn’t an end-goal for Tariq’s followers if they succeed in cleaving African Americans from the African diaspora.

If they succeed, then what? They’re stuck in an Apartheid America led by white supremacist Presidents while African American population growth stalls and is rendered politically less significant?

It’s basically a worse version of MAGA, in terms of the results.
:mjlol:
So we let yall flee over here because we needed tethers help to eliminate white supremely, help us politically, and to boost the black birth rate ?

Silly tether
:heh:
 

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That’s cool and all but one thing that all people with 4c hair have in common is getting at people who look like them and glazing people that look different than them.

They alledgelly shyt on Black americans and welcome chinese into Africa and we shyt on Africans and eat chinese food religiously.

I just saw a youtube channel from former Satmar Hasidic chick praising the gruop economics of Hasidim in New York

If any Black People FBA or non FBA moved like Hasidics we’d achieve our goals.

The FBA thing is not just an Internet thing but whatever pushback that you’d give Africans is solely on the internet.
except we didn't begin "shytting" on Africans. we all started out trying to be "Pan Africanists." even Tariq. he tried to be a Pan Africanist, and got over to Africa and learned a whole new reality.

we don't give "pushback" to africans or anyone else. we're really not all that concerned with them now. we tried "moving like Hasidics" but in most cases found ourselves moving alone. which is fine, better actually. better to deal with the reality of what is, rather than wasting time on what could be. big numbers often give the illusion of strength, but when the ranks are filled with the halfhearted, ignorant, treacherous, and even traitorous, it's best to concentrate and go it alone. now you're a military man so you should understand the value in that.
 

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except we didn't begin "shytting" on Africans. we all started out trying to be "Pan Africanists." even Tariq. he tried to be a Pan Africanist, and got over to Africa and learned a whole new reality.

we don't give "pushback" to africans or anyone else. we're really not all that concerned with them now. we tried "moving like Hasidics" but in most cases found ourselves moving alone. which is fine, better actually. better to deal with the reality of what is, rather than wasting time on what could be. big numbers often give the illusion of strength, but when the ranks are filled with the halfhearted, ignorant, treacherous, and even traitorous, it's best to concentrate and go it alone. now you're a military man so you should understand the value in that.
cool so there’s no problem then. A noted Black American Pan africanist Historian told you that You have no Friends Just move in that truth and you won’t feel backdoored.
 

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There really isn’t an end-goal for Tariq’s followers if they succeed in cleaving African Americans from the African diaspora.

If they succeed, then what? They’re stuck in an Apartheid America led by white supremacist Presidents while African American population growth stalls and is rendered politically less significant?

It’s basically a worse version of MAGA, in terms of the results.

:mjlol:

:pachaha:

Imagine going down with the ship but you're not even the Captain..:scust:

To be fair, it's not everybody who shares their twisted Black maga philosophies..
..just that screaming clowns are usually the loudest and most visible people. :yeshrug:

Its plain selfishness.
The sad scenario and a real world problem civilised Black America will have to address before it's too late, is having this minority of fakkits be their voice misrepresenting and embarasesing them on the global stage..

You don't ever recover from that, you may not come back from that shyt :ufdup:

The same way a minority of Black Americans known as rappers went for 40 years till this day selling millions of cds to the whole world yapping nonstop about the worst debauchery, crack, shooting those that look like them and degrading Black women on wax falsely conditioning the world into believing that that's all that Black America is about..they are also another form of Tariq and influenced generations but said they don't give a shyt what anyone thinks same as these fags.

Ultimately, Black people the world over are fukked over by shytty leadership and misrepresentation by those out there purporting to speak and act on our behalf. :camby:
 

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The term FBA is just a stronger and more solid term than ADOS, or African American. ADOS, while a good first attempt at defining the African American diaspora, doesn't carry the same weight. It centers around the word slave, which carries a more negative connotation as its anchor. The acronym ADOS also sounds like it could be associated with Latin or Hispanic people, which can cause confusion.

Words have power. I don’t follow Yvette or Tariq, but I do agree that FBA is a stronger and more fitting term for Black Americans — something that is needed to solidify a stronger identity.

Ryan Coogler expressed it the same way I would, or how anyone in my family would quite honestly. We have a distinct culture and experience, separate from Black cultures of the African continent and broader diaspora, but we still recognize our ancestral ties there, and for us, it's not just one country/people in Africa, but many.

I don’t see any contradiction or animosity in that view.
 

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You made a false statement trying to run defense for Tariq Nasheed and I called you on it. You couldn't post receipts to prove your false statement about Jesse Jackson so instead you lashed out at me, calling me a b1tch, a homosexual and a stalker for pointing out your lie.


There was a whole thread right here on TLR on which ethnicities are trademarked and it was very enlightening. Tariq trademarked FBA because it's a business to him.
 
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