“I am A Foundational Black American” - Ryan Coogler

[High Art]

funny how people use tariq and fba as a trojan horse for their ulterior hate against black americans

Is this the new excuse you guys will bring out to try and excuse the hate Tariq has been spewing?

 

[HimmyHendrix]

Oh that's fine. I always expected it. Just don't be surprised when the cacs come with the rug pull.

ain’t nobody worried about them folks

And we see the African roots shown in the film as well.

we have african ancestry.

there’s a 30 second showcase of it in the film

 

[HimmyHendrix]

Is this the new excuse you guys will bring out to try and excuse the hate Tariq has been spewing?

what hate? 99% of tariq’s videos are responses. even on his youtube he’s responding to hate. it’s reactive emotion not proactive.

 

[High Art]

what hate? 99% of tariq’s videos are responses. even on his youtube he’s responding to hate. it’s reactive emotion not proactive.

White surpremacists say the same shyt. Literally. Anyways, if I do or say to black Americans what you guys do to non-black Americans, what would you call that?

 

[HimmyHendrix]

White surpremacists say the same shyt. Literally. Anyways, if I do or say to black Americans what you guys do to non-black Americans, what would you call that?

what do we do? we not killing yall. we not attacking yall. we not selling drugs in your community like the shower posse or zoes.

what exactly are we doing?

if you mean hurling insults online, yall already do that lol

 

[High Art]

what do we do? we not killing yall. we not attacking yall. we not selling drugs in your community like the shower posse or zoes.

what exactly are we doing?

if you mean hurling insults online, yall already do that lol

If what we're doing is hate and you're doing that shyt, then that's hate. You can't say "What hate?". So even when caught in your hate, you have an excuse to try and wash it away as something good. It's like dealing with a sociopath.

 

[HimmyHendrix]

If what we're doing is hate and you're doing that shyt, then that's hate. You can't say "What hate?". So even when caught in your hate, you have an excuse to try and wash it away as something good. It's like dealing with a sociopath.

I just said that? We’re responding to hate with hate? you can’t read?

 

[High Art]

I just said that? We’re responding to hate with hate? you can’t read?

You're responding to hate from a small number of people among a large pool of people by having hate for the entire pool and then when someone points this out, you, acting as if you don't know what I'm talking about say:

what hate?

A response, overblown as it is, doesn't change the fact that it is still hate. I'm sure you'll talk in circles some more like a lot of people do on this website but holy shyt, it's as plain as day.

 

[Jazzy B.]

a tether is a means to attach something


it's irrelevant to the INTENTION behind calling some one a tether, it's definitely NOT a compliment, so spare me the jibber jabber

So basically you DON’T know what a “tether” is defined as and have made up your own definition gotcha

 

[BlazedWun]

really? where did you see that?

Why aren't 'foundational White Americans' encouraged to delineate themselves from European immigrant Americans, in the same manner that t...

Answer (1 of 15): So before diving into it, FBA stands for “Foundational Black Americans”. 1. Foundational Black Americans (FBA) emerged as a term to distinguish the descendants of enslaved Africans in the United States from more recent Black immigrants, particularly from Africa and the Caribbea...

www.quora.com

 

[DonB90]

Everyone makes more money off every black persons culture/resources.

that’s just white supremacy.

Africa is the richest continent in the world as far as natural resources and Asians, Arabs, and Europeans make more off it than anyone on the continent. That’s not a gotcha.

He thought he said something.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

The term African-American has some issues. A Nigerian American or Ghanaian American could be called the exact same thing, but they'd have a link back to their specific country and culture and tribe that could not be shared by an African Descendant of Slavery AKA Foundational Black American. Not easily. If someone wanted to give their DNA to one of these shady white companies then MAYBE they MIGHT be able to find their tribe.

Africa is a as whole ass continent. There are tribes there that straight up do not like each other. What the hell does "African-American" really mean if you're trying to trace back your lineage through slavery to your people? How specific can you get besides West Africa or besides Nigeria?

These new terms are important because there is a difference and it's worth emphasizing the difference, especially when it comes to reparations which would proportionally reward those families that were devastated by the actions of racist white people over the centuries. Unfortunately, thanks partially to bad actors depressing black vote help to ensure we can't seriously discuss reparations for dozens of years to come thanks to this trump-appointed Supreme Court.

I butt heads against Tariq fans because he is one of those bad actors likes to push divisiveness and depress Black vote while claiming to care about Black Americans. He came up with a good term and one that I really don't think people should have any issue with. But for the guy himself in the way he pushes contradictory ideas that don't actually increase our political power in this country the way it is. I don't fukk with him at all.

Language carries the fingerprints of its creator, especially when the creator actively brands, markets, and polices it (which Tariq does). Trying to "separate" a term from its toxic creator is easier said than done, especially when the creator is still alive, active, and exploiting the term for his own personal gain. Every time someone uses "FBA," it boosts Tariq's brand whether they intend it or not.

I feel, because of that, using a term that's clean, descriptive, and free of that baggage, like "Generational Black American" is the best way forward. It honors the specific lineage and history we're trying to emphasize, without tying us to grifters or the chaos they leave in their wake.

I agree with you that the distinction matters, especially around reparations. But if we're serious about advancing that cause, we need to be strategic not just about the ideas, but also the language we use to organize ourselves. Words have power, and they also have baggage when bad actors are attached to them.

We don't need to prop up someone who has actively weakened Black political power to make a legitimate case for our lineage. We have the history, the receipts, and the right to advocate without borrowing a brand built on toxicity.

 

[Jazzy B.]

a tether is a means to attach something


it's irrelevant to the INTENTION behind calling some one a tether, it's definitely NOT a compliment, so spare me the jibber jabber

Tether = ANTI FBA person of non American origin

 

[HimmyHendrix]

You're responding to hate from a small number of people among a large pool of people by having hate for the entire pool and then when someone points this out, you, acting as if you don't know what I'm talking about say:

what? who said were hating a whole group of people. you’re just making things up now. it’s hate for hate. and when i said hate i was saying it unprovoked hate.

 

[The Pledge]

Tetha please