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"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it."

16 "Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

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This is purely academic cause you're convinced:

If Jesus - the word- was WITH G-d in the beginning, then that's two separate things. One with the other. If Jesus was GIVEN authority then something else besides himself had to give it to him.

If Jesus WAS G-d then how did he suffer? How did he call out to G-d?

You know how they say the Bible defies logic? Nice way of saying it doesn't make sense.
 

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UHHHHH JESUS DIDNT CLAIM ANYTHING.
his zealous fans did. :snoop:

what Jesus was has been somewhat exaggerated.
but what he taught has not. :wow:

So then why did Jesus have the power to forgive sins? :mjpls:

According to old testament scripture only God had the power to forgive sins...why u think the jews were so offended when he said that :heh:

Its as simple as this...a mere mortal wouldnt make the claims Jesus was making..the pharisees who knew the scriptures recognized this which is why they labeled him a demon/lunatic

"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept his claim to be God." That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic--on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg--or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God; or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon, or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come away with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to."
 

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This is purely academic cause you're convinced:

If Jesus - the word- was WITH G-d in the beginning, then that's two separate things. One with the other. If Jesus was GIVEN authority then something else besides himself had to give it to him.

If Jesus WAS G-d then how did he suffer? How did he call out to G-d?

You know how they say the Bible defies logic? Nice way of saying it doesn't make sense.

This debate will do u some good :obama:


Edit: Forgot to link the vid :pachaha:
 

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So then why did Jesus have the power to forgive sins? :mjpls:

According to old testament scripture only God had the power to forgive sins...why u think the jews were so offended when he said that :heh:

Its as simple as this...a mere mortal wouldnt make the claims Jesus was making..the pharisees who knew the scriptures recognized this which is why they labeled him a demon/lunatic

"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept his claim to be God." That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic--on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg--or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God; or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon, or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come away with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to."

Wow. u need to fukking read the bible again. AND NOT THE KING JAMES VERSION. :snoop:


Jesus never claimed to be GOD. :what:
 

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He isnt. what so hard to understand about that?? :heh:
Matthew 7:6

Don't give to dogs what belongs to God. They will only turn and attack you. Don't throw pearls down in front of pigs. They will trample all over them.

:ufdup: Move along kid.
 

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Wow. u need to fukking read the bible again. AND NOT THE KING JAMES VERSION. :snoop:


Jesus never claimed to be GOD. :what:

:dwillhuh: did u just ignore my point and assume the verses im referencing are wrong?? :what:

Speak against my point
 

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Matthew 7:6

Don't give to dogs what belongs to God. They will only turn and attack you. Don't throw pearls down in front of pigs. They will trample all over them.

:ufdup: Move along kid.

Its sad youre an overzealous fool who cant understand a cryptic book.
Keep thinking Jesus is GOD and that a book translated and revised over hundreds of times is speaking LITERALLY to you. smh.
 

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:dwillhuh: did u just ignore my point and assume the verses im referencing im wrong?? :what:

Speak against my point
The verses you are quoting are NOT precise and DO NOT imply JESUS IS GOD.
show me where he said IN FACT "I AM GOD"

show me what verse Jesus said it. Then tell me what apostle or being recorded it. Then tell me how many times it was translated and then got into the hands of KING JAMES.

go fukking read the torah or the qu'ran. jeez youre naive.
 

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The verses you are quoting are NOT precise and DO NOT imply JESUS IS GOD.
show me where he said IN FACT "I AM GOD"

show me what verse Jesus said it. Then tell me what apostle or being recorded it. Then tell me how many times it was translated and then got into the hands of KING JAMES.

go fukking read the torah or the qu'ran. jeez youre naive.

The verses I quoted dont imply that he's God? :what:

Like I said...he claimed the power to forgive sins and the old scriptures already established that only God had that power to forgive sins...why do u think thew jews were angry and said it was blasphemous of him to make that claim :heh:

Or when Jesus rose from the dead Thomas fell on his face and refereed to Jesus as "My Lord my God" and Jesus blesssed Thomas for making that claim

The Jews and pharisees believed Jesus to be making divine claims..they understood this..and Jesus in no way shape or form corrected them..because they were right

He was....from referring himself to the Son of God, to referring himself to "I AM",(Before Abraham was, I AM), to claiming to have the power to forgive sins, to claiming to be the judge of all the living, etc etc.

These are not claims of mere man breh..These are divine claims and the Jews who understood scripture back then understood that which is why they were soo angry and accused him of blasphemy.

Now as for the whole translation thing ur talkin bout...I'll jus leave this here
 

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Wow. u need to fukking read the bible again. AND NOT THE KING JAMES VERSION. :snoop:
What version of the

Jesus never claimed to be GOD. :what:
Its sad youre an overzealous fool who cant understand a cryptic book.
Keep thinking Jesus is GOD and that a book translated and revised over hundreds of times is speaking LITERALLY to you. smh.
Keep living in your faithless world and put your worldly views over the holy spirit. I believe in Jesus Christ and that he died on the cross for our sins. Not just Christians sins but the sins of all men. If me believing that makes you upset in some sort of way then so be it. :manny:

2 Corinthians 4:1-12

God has been kind enough to trust us with this work. This is why we never give up. We don't do shameful things that must be kept secret. And we don't try to fool anyone or twist God's message around. God is our witness that we speak only the truth, so others will be sure we can be trusted. If there is anything hidden about our message, it is hidden only to someone who is lost. The god who rules this world has blinded the minds of unbelievers. They cannot see the light, which is the good news about our glorious Christ, who shows what God is like. We are not preaching about ourselves. Our message is that Jesus Christ is Lord. He also sent us to be your servants. The Scriptures say, “God commanded light to shine in the dark.” Now God is shining in our hearts to let you know that his glory is seen in Jesus Christ. We are like clay jars in which this treasure is stored. The real power comes from God and not from us. We often suffer, but we are never crushed. Even when we don't know what to do, we never give up. In times of trouble, God is with us, and when we are knocked down, we get up again. We face death every day because of Jesus. Our bodies show what his death was like, so his life can also be seen in us. This means that death is working in us, but life is working in you.
 

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The verses I quoted dont imply that he's God? :what:

Like I said...he claimed the power to forgive sins and the old scriptures already established that only God had that power to forgive sins...why do u think thew jews were angry and said it was blasphemous of him to make that claim :heh:

Or when Jesus rose from the dead Thomas fell on his face and refereed to Jesus as "My Lord my God" and Jesus blesssed Thomas for making that claim

The Jews and pharisees believed Jesus to be making divine claims..they understood this..and Jesus in no way shape or form corrected them..because they were right

He was....from referring himself to the Son of God, to referring himself to "I AM",(Before Abraham was, I AM), to claiming to have the power to forgive sins, to claiming to be the judge of all the living, etc etc.

These are not claims of mere man breh..These are divine claims and the Jews who understood scripture back then understood that which is why they were soo angry and accused him of blasphemy.

Now as for the whole translation thing ur talkin bout...I'll jus leave this here

:russ: The comedy and teachings was done to perfection in that video
:sadcam: Brown shoes black socks and a blue suit hahaja
 
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