I applaud star players dictating ish in the NBA

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

Actually they haven't. NBA didn't have FA until he 80's and NFL didn't have it until the 90's.

For the billionth time this is not the movies where great players just will their rag-tag group of teammates to the big game where they overcome the cocky opponent who has all the talent but lacks the most important talent of all...heart.

Since when is adversity something you should seek? Where is the logic in that? There is none but some people don't look at sports with logic and thus we have people espousing that made for the movies narrative that you just threw out there.

What kinda adversity to Magic overcome being drafted to a team that had Kareem on it?
What kinda adversity did Bird overcome with 2 other 20/10 guys arriving almost immdiately?
What kinda adversity did Kobe overcome starting his career on team with prime Shaq?
What kinda adversity did Russell overcome playing with a team full of HOFers?

Did they have bytch nikka tendencies too? Lemme guess that was different because they were drafted by/traded to those teams. Its' only okay to be in a good situation if it's by someone elses doing right?

Like i've said before. It's only ok if vaseline is applied first

people wanna be not when you fukk'em over

no homo

 

[23Barrettcity]

I agree..except when its done in bytchmade ways like with Howard..

Players though also should undertsand theres a cap so they want to make as much money as possible but also have to realize its not easy to get a lot of help around you that way..Lebron took less money to go play with two other big names..

Melo wanted his money and to dictate what team he went to and got it but it also forced his new team to have to be gutted to get him and he wont ever see a ring..

We replaced those players so we were gutted for less than half a season . Saying he won't ever win a ring is premature we reloaded and got deeper .
Plus it was going to be a lockout he wanted to be sure he got the deal he wanted

 

[KingpinOG]

Do you idiots really think it is good for the league if all the top players join together to form 3 or 4 superteams while leaving 26-27 teams with no talent????

And LOL @ players going to teams like the Knicks or Nets because they want to win. When the hell have those garbage ass franchises won anything????

 

[FTBS]

what part of "even LeBron regrets it" dont yall understand?...yall defending a man, that has already admitted he was wrong..let it go already

So if Lebron said he didn't apologize would you be using what he said to support your stance? Not only do you want to have convenient morality but you wanna give this nikka convenient credibility. You think he says that if there is no backlash? The nikka is no different than the people criticizing him. People criticized him, not because they didn't like the tv show or thought he was arrogant, but because he didn't pick their team. He apologized, not because he thought it was so wrong, but because he caught hella heat for it. Right and wrong is right and wrong no matter what anyone says.

 

[FTBS]

Do you idiots really think it is good for the league if all the top players join together to form 3 or 4 superteams while leaving 26-27 teams with no talent????

And LOL @ players going to teams like the Knicks or Nets because they want to win. When the hell have those garbage ass franchises won anything????

The 1980s would like a word with you. Would you be saying that if your team was one of the superteams? Honestly would you?

 

[KingpinOG]

The 1980s would like a word with you. Would you be saying that if your team was one of the superteams? Honestly would you?

1980's teams like the Celtics and Lakers weren't formed by star players joining together through free agency and forced trades.

If my favorite team happened to form a superteam of course I would be excited. But I would still acknowledge that it wasn't good for the league. There is a reason why the NFL dwarfs every other sport in popularity: its competitive balance.

 

[Cliche]

I have no problem with free agents doing whatever they want. That's a right they earned. More power (and money) to them.

Lebron leaving was a shame for Cleveland, but people elsewhere wouldn't have cared if he didn't go about it like a complete moron. Which is why Dwight is getting destroyed (rightfully so) for his exit from Orlando, because on one hand he wants to leave (and only go to Brooklyn), but at the same time he's trying to present himself as a guy who's loyal or whatever to preserve his brand. GTFO with that shyt. You can have one or the other, you can't have both.

If you don't want to play in City X, don't sign a contract to play there. Pretty simple. Right now you've got this Eric Gordon thing where he doesn't even seem to understand what being an RFA means, and he acts offended by the idea of NOH matching. You've got Kevin Love out there talking about how things have to change... dude you just signed a huge extension there. Why did you sign that shyt if you wanted to leave?

And if you do end up in a shytty situation, there are better ways to handle it than putting it out through the media that you want to leave. This is not a new thing in sports, guys being unhappy. But letting it play out through the media 100% of the time is a new thing. To me, it's unprofessional. Just like it would be unprofessional for a GM or owner to take a shot at one of their players through the media.

The problem I have with this whole thing is that players like to think they know how to evaluate talent on a league-wide level, but they don't. You are not a GM or a scout, you're a player. You're not seeing these guys on a game-in, game-out basis. That's how you end up thinking that Amare Stoudamire is a superstar, or Joe Johnson is a superstar, etc.

For some reason this is less prevalent in other sports, than it is in the NBA. I would imagine it has to do with smaller rosters, capped salaries and the fact that it's such a star-marketed league.

 

[FTBS]

1980's teams like the Celtics and Lakers weren't formed by star players joining together through free agency and forced trades.

If my favorite team happened to form a superteam of course I would be excited. But I would still acknowledge that it wasn't good for the league. There is a reason why the NFL dwarfs every other sport in popularity: its competitive balance.

You think Bucks vs. TWolves Finals would help the NBA close the gap with the NFL? Basketball is star driven. Football is more so about teams.

You might acknowledge it wasn't good for the league but we both know you wouldn't have the same issues with it that you do now.

so all the star players being on 3 or 4 teams is okay as long as they were acquired through the draft and trades where the player didn't wanna go? The competitive balance that you yearn for still wasn't there and the league was at it's apex.

 

[Cliche]

There are always going to be good teams and bad teams. But if you're basically telling 20-plus markets in your league not to bother because everybody wants to play in Miami or New York or LA... why have a 30 team league? What's the motivating interest for the fans of the other teams?

A team doesn't need to be from a big market to be compelling. They just need to be great.

 

[HoLLaBaCK]

I agree with the OP. Let the players play where they want with whoever they want. People crying about parity in the NBA is bullshyt only 16 teams have won championships...9 in the last 30 years. Some teams just aint gonna get a chip and thats how it's always been.

 

[FTBS]

There are always going to be good teams and bad teams. But if you're basically telling 20-plus markets in your league not to bother because everybody wants to play in Miami or New York or LA... why have a 30 team league? What's the motivating interest for the fans of the other teams?

A team doesn't need to be from a big market to be compelling. They just need to be great.

Nobody put a gun to Sterns head and made him expand. He'd still be expanding now if he could. If fans of the other teams said "fukk the NBA" then best believe changes would be made.

A team doesn't have to be in a big market it's all about A)luck and B)how well it's ran. Big market teams have an advantage when it comes to FA but if a small market teams get lucky in the draft and make the right moves (SA/OKC) they can be great. Small markets have less margin for error when it comes to keeping players. The irony is that the salary cap and max salaries actually hurt small market teams more than it helps them. If there were no limits on how much you could pay guys you drafted a lot of this shyt wouldn't be happening. You think Bron leaves 10 years 300 mil on the table to go to MIA? I think Dwight would manage to make up his mind pretty quickly with numbers like that on the table.

 

[emoney]

I do find it funny that even Lebron regrets "The Descision" to an extent & can look at the entire fiasco objectively, but his fellow stans continue to plug their fingers in their ears and shout at the top of their lungs about how people are simply picking on him and being petty.

what part of "even LeBron regrets it" dont yall understand?...yall defending a man, that has already admitted he was wrong..let it go already

LeBron only regrets it because of the heat he got from it. If there was no outrage, there would be no apology from Bron.

 

[Lakers Offseason]

I expect this from fans who don't support the teams they grow up with because they suck or fans who grow up without a father.

 

[FTBS]

so if I decided to watch the holocaust special on CNN, I would be supporting it then?...



was I also supporting Bin Ladin when I sat and watched his videos too?..

No it's not nikka, when 9/11 happened, or when Michael Jackson died...you most likely if not certainly watched something about it.. did that mean that you supported either happening?

bad logic brehbreh.

You can't compare an athlete choosing where he's gonna play to a tragedy. Watching the Decision=supporting Bron because you are proving that he is a bankable comodity in terms of programming and thus putting him in a position to make more money than he would have made by not doing the shyt.

Everybody still with me?

Watching 9/11 or the Holocaust or MJ's death on TV does not support those things because the money made from the ratings is not contributing to more terrorist attacks or more Jews being killed or preventing MJ from being recessitated. Beyond that, people NEED to know about the country being attacked or genocide, they don't NEED to know where Bron is going to play basketball. They wanna know the shyt and the moment it doesn't suit their desires then suddenly the special and Bron himself are a problem.

 

[ghostwriterx]

You can't compare an athlete choosing where he's gonna play to a tragedy. Watching the Decision=supporting Bron because you are proving that he is a bankable comodity in terms of programming and thus putting him in a position to make more money than he would have made by not doing the shyt.

While that is true, it doesn't mean that you support the decision to do "the decision."

People watch crap on tv all the time that they don't necessarily condone personally. If I watch Fox news that doesn't mean I agree with their viewpoints.