VegetasHairline
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How 
was this dude the 4th pick in the draft?
was this dude the 4th pick in the draft?
I Believe in Patrick Williams
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He has great measurables, he can pass, and they liked his attitude in addition to the flashes of a player he could be.How
Unfortunately, not only was it a big reach, but Billy Donovan is doing him no favors in terms of development. Patrick was a project from the beginning And in the middle of his first season, they pivot to win now. His main problem is that he went from a player that wasn’t getting any better to a player who has regressed.
please don’t put this on Billy Donovan. Pat needs to own this all on himself. The same guy who has happy coming off the bench in college has no killer instinct in the league, funny that. He is who he is, and they over drafted him
nah this crazy
Hey man, it is both. The same way you will see Matas standing in a corner to put up trees instead of having 2 to 3 players run for him a game, Pat has a similar aimlessness in his play. His lack of rebounding and not knowing when to cut our absolutely something that can be coached. We basically see a guy who has the same weaknesses for five years straight. We know he has not reached his potential even as a role player and he’s not even close to becoming more When what is asked of him it’s to stand in the corner on offense and literally figure it out.
In college, Pat was playing behind guys who were clearly better than him and he was meant to play a role. If the Bulls drafted him at four to be more than a role player, then it is 100% their job to put him through his paces whatever the growing pains. He will be in the league for a long time as a role player, but you can be damn sure there are other coaches that would integrate him into more than just the defensive side of the ball.
I disagree with the bolded.
Rebounding and cutting are both instinctual elements in basketball. Rebounding is also a skill driven by instincts and effort. You have to have a feel for how the ball will come off the glass and attack it.
Cutting has a lot to do with just understanding spacing and where opportunities are. This is stuff that is developed from youth ball on.
When I watch Matas it's clear that he just has much more of a better feel for the game, spacing and cutting than Patrick does. He stands around in the corner waiting for a pass because that's easy to do... He doesn't have to react or think about it. Just run to a spot and stand, then run back on defense (he rarely crashes the offensive glass).
Pat's overall lack of feel for the game is most troubling thing for me. It's frustrating because for him to average 10 PPG without ever getting to the FT line or cutting to the rim and get easy buckets just highlights how much more he could do from a production standpoint.
I actually wanted Sochan back in the LaVine/Fox dealI wouldn't trade Jeremy Sochan for Patrick Williams and I think Jeremy Sochan is one of the 10 worst players in the league AND he shoot his free throws with one hand
kt773
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Billy ain’t shyt but he had no chance helping that fukking bust , he can’t even make a fukking layup , he never had it fam
Eh, wild exaggeration. PWill regressed this year but you can't judge his other years by how bafflingly bad he is this go. He was just as bad last year to start but came alive before the foot injury.Billy ain’t shyt but he had no chance helping that fukking bust , he can’t even make a fukking layup , he never had it fam
The problem with what AKME did is you don't draft someone in the lottery at 4 just to make them a roleplayer. You actually put them in position to body up and learn the hard way. The upside is we could definitively know that he sucks as the guy to start and the expirement would have been different to follow. The only reason he was a starter was because of defense and when he got the ball the odd time, he was sparking up from 3 even if it was only 2-3 attempts per game. Same reason drafting Dalen at 18 and having him be the least played 18th pick of all time, as well as simply deciding not to have Matas play early on. The regime and Billy don't seem to be in the development business because some of Pat's flashes never turned into an upgrade in responsibility. Has a great scoring game? Cool, stay in the corners and put up shots. He has a bum ass mentality but they sure ain't pushing him on the court.
Wiseman went 2nd that same year.How
At least Pat is still in the NBA
god shamgod
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It’s been 4+ years , dude sucks
That missed dunk montage
6’7 missing that many dunks tf
That missed dunk montage
6’7 missing that many dunks tf
kt773
Superstar
Did not read , You and golden glove wrong as fukk …the end
, I seen too many games live , he’s booty , he was never gonna be shyt but buying more flower shops with that weak ass grey patch
beenz
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bill simmons just did a podcast about WOAT current contracts, and guess what. this 
is on there. I've queued it up at the 57:13 mark.
is on there. I've queued it up at the 57:13 mark.