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@mikishere @spliz

I wouldn't say no one was checking for French before be linked with max

I wasn't even in the loop like that as far as the whole mixtape/DVD circuit back then but even I knew who French was and was feeling a few of his joints

"I'm so special" and "Rockstar" were undeniable local bangers and I know those two videos specifically were being picked up by the blogs back in like 08 or 09 or whatever it was

I doubt max would have even fukked with French if he didn't have a movement of his own

if max gave French anything it was a really good catalogue of collaborative music but to say French wouldn't be where he his now without max idk if that's necessarily true because French has a great work ethic and a great ear in his own right and a lot of the stuff he does now doesn't even sound like the shyt him and max did in the Coke wave era

If you're of the opinion that French would have never broke through that industry door without his collaborative efforts with Max that's fine but if people think he would have gotten through regardless of max I don't necessarily think that's a reach either
 
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@mikishere @spliz

I wouldn't say no one was checking for French before be linked with max

I wasn't even in the loop like that as far as the whole mixtape/DVD circuit back then but even I knew who French was and was feeling a few of his joints

"I'm so special" and "Rockstar" were undeniable local bangers and I know those two videos specifically were being picked up by the blogs back in like 08 or 09 or whatever it was

I doubt max would have even fukked with French if he didn't have a movement of his own

if max gave French anything it was a really good catalogue of collaborative music but to say French wouldn't be where he his now without max idk if that's necessarily true because French has a great work ethic and a great ear in his own right and a lot of the stuff he does now doesn't even sound like the shyt him and max did in the Coke wave era

If you're of the opinion that French would have never broke through that industry door without his collaborative efforts with Max that's fine but if people think he would have gotten through regardless of max I don't necessarily think that's a reach either
Son. I don't know ONE nikka who fukked wit French before Max. Not a single one. And like I said before. I watched French's whole come up from the bottom to the top. nikkas used to skip his videos on his DVD. Alotta people fukked wit Cocaine City tho. Max coulda fukked wit French off the strength of that alone. I didn't say people in the streets ain't fukk wit French as an individual. But musically? Hell nah. Not before Max.
 

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dude is obviously a new age french stan who wasnt around at the time and just googled/watched old french videos... nikka had me sittin like :mindblown: thinkin that max didnt give him that initial push... nobody is saying max is responsible for pop that, shot caller, etc but no one would've been listening to french WITHOUT that initial push... every rapper who blows up has a core fanbase before they do for the most part... max gave him that core fanbase

:mjlol: @ french being the reason currensy or anybody else was giving max props... currensy rapped on like 6 different old max b tracks throughout his mixtape catalog... french put him on to those tracks huh?

nikka thinks we're hating on french for pointing out facts.. i fukk with frenchs music til this day... stop rewriting history though @straightcash

That's not exactly what i said, but if it makes you feel good. I said french the reason people giving max props. If max was locked up, you think fukking al pac would be collabing with curren$y? New fans or old fans of max, he'd just be swept under the carpet, with nikkas taking credit for his styles. Curren$y did meet Harry Fraud through French, or are you gonna say Max put him on too?
 

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Son. I don't know ONE nikka who fukked wit French before Max. Not a single one. And like I said before. I watched French's whole come up from the bottom to the top. nikkas used to skip his videos on his DVD. Alotta people fukked wit Cocaine City tho. Max coulda fukked wit French off the strength of that alone. I didn't say people in the streets ain't fukk wit French as an individual. But musically? Hell nah. Not before Max.

Except veterans like Jadakiss, Akon n Yayo were already fukkn with French. So what if he can't get on with another controversial rapper in Max and get a bigger buzz. He had a homegrown movement from the ground up. Look at his features vs Max's features. Half french's features were with rappers established in the game, but with Max's features most of them were rappers nobody had heard of, and half of those were underground rappers from CT.

Look at all the interviews with Deb or Frenchie. Not one of them says, i introduced french to my aunt, or i signed french because he had lot of fans. They just did. They clicked and he got signed off that.
To make a fanbase in a completely new market as french did saying goodbye to the tri-state like that, that's a huge accomplishment. I'm glad he did, thank the Gs otherwise he probably would never had made it.


Jadakiss sayin back here in 2008, he fukked with him off Cocaine City. Everywhere he go people bringing up french and cocaine city. N you tellin me nobody knew the guy. Nope.
 
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Except veterans like Jadakiss, Akon n Yayo were already fukkn with French. So what if he can't get on with another controversial rapper in Max and get a bigger buzz. He had a homegrown movement from the ground up. Look at his features vs Max's features. Half french's features were with rappers established in the game, but with Max's features most of them were rappers nobody had heard of, and half of those were underground rappers from CT.

Look at all the interviews with Deb or Frenchie. Not one of them says, i introduced french to my aunt, or i signed french because he had lot of fans. They just did. They clicked and he got signed off that.
To make a fanbase in a completely new market as french did saying goodbye to the tri-state like that, that's a huge accomplishment. I'm glad he did, thank the Gs otherwise he probably would never had made it.


Jadakiss sayin back here in 2008, he fukked with him off Cocaine City. Everywhere he go people bringing up french and cocaine city. N you tellin me nobody knew the guy. Nope.

:what: nikka I already said people was fukkin wit him cause of Cocaine City. When the fukk did I say nobody knew him? Did u even read my posts? I CLEARLY said he had connects cause everyone fukked wit Cocaine City. NOT cause of his music. And u posting Jadakiss is stupid anyway considering Jada was in on the DVD game as well with The Come Up DVD. Along with Fendi and Gravy. Why don't u just accept u don't know wtf u talkin bout and keep it movin? This is the problem with u nikkas u ain't actually experience or wasn't old enough to remember the shyt u talkin bout. Anybody who was heavy in the mixtape DVD game or remembers it vividly will tell u the same thing.
 

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:what: nikka I already said people was fukkin wit him cause of Cocaine City. When the fukk did I say nobody knew him? Did u even read my posts? I CLEARLY said he had connects cause everyone fukked wit Cocaine City. NOT cause of his music. And u posting Jadakiss is stupid anyway considering Jada was in on the DVD game as well with The Come Up DVD. Along with Fendi and Gravy. Why don't u just accept u don't know wtf u talkin bout and keep it movin? This is the problem with u nikkas u ain't actually experience or wasn't old enough to remember the shyt u talkin bout. Anybody who was heavy in the mixtape DVD game or remembers it vividly will tell u the same thing.

If you agreeing that he got his buzz off the dvds, and not because he blew up from Max giving him a "NY fanbase", then we're in agreement after all. What i been sayin since 5 pages back. Glad we got that settled.
 
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