I can't support anyone on here who is "pro-black community" but anti-marriage

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

Peep game.

I know a lot of cats don't like it but marriage is important even from a secular perspective. It allows families to BUILD wealth, pass inheritances, provide a stable environment to raise responsible American citizens who are self sufficient and contributing members of society. A black person who is averse to marriage has been lied to by white supremacist or either a complete idiot. Love and hip hop is NOT marriage, it's ghetto trash like a black version of Jersey shore. Get your Cosby, Everyone Hates Chris or Bernie Mac show on. Model black excellence. The only people who think marriage is a piece a paper are white trash idiots who are too stupid and immature to handle marriage. Marriage is an investment and you only get out what you put in.


The divorce rate is at 50% but that's including everyone from the dumbass who knocked up "that chick" after prom and got a shotgun wedding, all the way to Bill Gates. Look at the cup half full. There are steps you can take to decrease your rate of divorce.

-GO TO COLLEGE AND GRADUATE. Even some college is not effective but for those who get their bachelor's their divorce rates drop BY HALF. People who have enough maturity to survive 4+ years of college and see it to completion are going to be a much more mature people when committing to marriage. Yes there are exceptions to the rule but generally speaking, college helps with maturity which is a huge factor in making marriage last.

-DO NOT COHABITATE. I know it is easy to cohabitate with your girl/guy but this is one of the dumbest things you can do and it will make it harder to leave if you want to break up. Your housing decisions won't be based on logic or finances but emotion when cohabitating. If you want to save money on rent and expenses, get a roommate instead.

-DON'T GET MARRIED STRAIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE. You don't have a job or you either just got one, often this is the first time you actually are living on your own. You don't really know much about personal finance, how to cook, etc and you're in a really unstable point in your life. It's important that you spend your time getting your shyt together if you haven't figured it out in college. Get in shape, learn personal finance so you can budget your money wisely, start an emergency savings account, learn to cook, etc. You can date while doing this but DO NOT PUT A RING ON THAT FINGER DURING THIS TIME. You have almost 60+ years left in your life, you can wait few years to get married. Waiting until your 25+ instead of getting married right at 22 will save you so much trouble and will give you breathing room to get all of your wild party days "out of the system".

-BIRTH CONTROL, BIRTH CONTROL, BIRTH CONTROL. Tell your girlfriend to get an IUD if you can't trust her with birth control, take advantage of condoms for one night stands and be sure to use the pull out method as a just in case measure. If there is an accidental pregnancy, get that Plan B, it is NOT an abortion pill so do not hesitate to use it. Waiting until marriage to have kids will make marriage much easier. People who have shotgun weddings drive up the divorce rates because their irresponsibility is factored in the 50% rate. They don't get married because they want to be together, they do it because they made a mistake and jumping into an even bigger one to fix it.

-DO NOT CHEAT OR SLEEP AROUND. KEEP IT CLASSY. This isn't a religious argument but you would be surprised at how this isn't common sense. Sleeping around in marriage is just low class and trashy. Black people are better than that and if you are bored with the same girl, try spicing up the bedroom by bringing new techniques or chance positions. Don't let dusty nikkas put peer pressure on you to fukk around. Save that shyt for the trash. Learn some self control. Do not have an open marriage, they have a 90% failure rate.

Marriage is hard work and a lot of sacrifice but it is an investment. You will have a much easier time building wealth, getting a decent house in a great neighborhood and providing a stable home with your kids getting married. It's not bullet proof, nothing is but you will significantly reduce your chance of getting a divorce. A lot of middle class white people already follow these steps already. Yes, some fall through the cracks but this allows white people to pass on wealth, generation upon generation while black people lag behind. You still have to gain emotional maturity to handle marriage and learn how to treat a woman with respect but these 4 steps are almost poverty proof. If you don't know what you're doing or how to do it, emulate people you see in long successful marriages and don't be afraid to ask them questions.

bull shyt bro, you can keep wealth within your family without marriage after you die, its called a will. Plus ive built wealth bymyself I wouldn't nor would many need to marry to accomplish this.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Peep game.

I know a lot of cats don't like it but marriage is important even from a secular perspective. It allows families to BUILD wealth, pass inheritances, provide a stable environment to raise responsible American citizens who are self sufficient and contributing members of society. A black person who is averse to marriage has been lied to by white supremacist or either a complete idiot. Love and hip hop is NOT marriage, it's ghetto trash like a black version of Jersey shore. Get your Cosby, Everyone Hates Chris or Bernie Mac show on. Model black excellence. The only people who think marriage is a piece a paper are white trash idiots who are too stupid and immature to handle marriage. Marriage is an investment and you only get out what you put in.


The divorce rate is at 50% but that's including everyone from the dumbass who knocked up "that chick" after prom and got a shotgun wedding, all the way to Bill Gates. Look at the cup half full. There are steps you can take to decrease your rate of divorce.

-GO TO COLLEGE AND GRADUATE. Even some college is not effective but for those who get their bachelor's their divorce rates drop BY HALF. People who have enough maturity to survive 4+ years of college and see it to completion are going to be a much more mature people when committing to marriage. Yes there are exceptions to the rule but generally speaking, college helps with maturity which is a huge factor in making marriage last.

-DO NOT COHABITATE. I know it is easy to cohabitate with your girl/guy but this is one of the dumbest things you can do and it will make it harder to leave if you want to break up. Your housing decisions won't be based on logic or finances but emotion when cohabitating. If you want to save money on rent and expenses, get a roommate instead.

-DON'T GET MARRIED STRAIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE. You don't have a job or you either just got one, often this is the first time you actually are living on your own. You don't really know much about personal finance, how to cook, etc and you're in a really unstable point in your life. It's important that you spend your time getting your shyt together if you haven't figured it out in college. Get in shape, learn personal finance so you can budget your money wisely, start an emergency savings account, learn to cook, etc. You can date while doing this but DO NOT PUT A RING ON THAT FINGER DURING THIS TIME. You have almost 60+ years left in your life, you can wait few years to get married. Waiting until your 25+ instead of getting married right at 22 will save you so much trouble and will give you breathing room to get all of your wild party days "out of the system".

-BIRTH CONTROL, BIRTH CONTROL, BIRTH CONTROL. Tell your girlfriend to get an IUD if you can't trust her with birth control, take advantage of condoms for one night stands and be sure to use the pull out method as a just in case measure. If there is an accidental pregnancy, get that Plan B, it is NOT an abortion pill so do not hesitate to use it. Waiting until marriage to have kids will make marriage much easier. People who have shotgun weddings drive up the divorce rates because their irresponsibility is factored in the 50% rate. They don't get married because they want to be together, they do it because they made a mistake and jumping into an even bigger one to fix it.

-DO NOT CHEAT OR SLEEP AROUND. KEEP IT CLASSY. This isn't a religious argument but you would be surprised at how this isn't common sense. Sleeping around in marriage is just low class and trashy. Black people are better than that and if you are bored with the same girl, try spicing up the bedroom by bringing new techniques or chance positions. Don't let dusty nikkas put peer pressure on you to fukk around. Save that shyt for the trash. Learn some self control. Do not have an open marriage, they have a 90% failure rate.

Marriage is hard work and a lot of sacrifice but it is an investment. You will have a much easier time building wealth, getting a decent house in a great neighborhood and providing a stable home with your kids getting married. It's not bullet proof, nothing is but you will significantly reduce your chance of getting a divorce. A lot of middle class white people already follow these steps already. Yes, some fall through the cracks but this allows white people to pass on wealth, generation upon generation while black people lag behind. You still have to gain emotional maturity to handle marriage and learn how to treat a woman with respect but these 4 steps are almost poverty proof. If you don't know what you're doing or how to do it, emulate people you see in long successful marriages and don't be afraid to ask them questions. Remember, marriage is an investment and you only get out of it what you put in. You don't put shyt in, you don't get shyt out of it. You put a lot in, you get a lot out of it. This will allow you to have the resources to tackle systemic white supremacy.

What does any of that have to do with bein pro black?

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

What does any of that have to do with bein pro black?

nothing at all. this thread is like saying 'you cant say you like watching cartoons if you eat chicken'

 

[GoPro]

They holding them choppas to our heads screamin bout "Get married brehs... or else!"

 

[Ain't That Something]

I have all the confidence in the world that you will emerge from this even that much better than before. Thats what great men do. Enjoy the journey, and respect even the lows. Perhaps even moreso. You are being trained and tested and for a reason.

When did you become a preacher. Sounds like some shyt them Evangelical nikkas that you hate so much would say

 

[Wild self]

They should change the marriage laws and the severe penalties for men.

 

[151_Pr00f]

There's no denying that most of the values and wealth of a community are passed down through the family unit. It is the basis of culture. A legally binding contract doesn't guarantee that one won't opt out of it, but I ultimately can't find any incentive that a couple today would have trying raise a child outside of marriage in a traditional nuclear unit. I mean atleast with marriage you get certain tax credits, which translates into more disposable income, property and inheritance rights, etc. You could cover all that with a will but lets keep it real for a sec............

I mean look at our community right now. Very few if any of us are doing that. Out of the 76 percent of couples who do procreate outside of marriage only 5 percent of the biological fathers are are an active presence in their child's life. Now we already understand that across the board children raised by single parents are at a significant statistical disadvantage in regards to future income, education, the legal justice system, and behavioral issues. So lets stop pretending that most unwed couples are thinking in the long term.

I'm not against bachelorhood or the anti marriage crowd but against people who don't have any intent on raising a family they started and that goes for married or unmarried couples. Thats indirectly harming our community whether you realize it or not

 

[Grifter]

I see no point in getting married.

 

[Jahmal]

Get married to please an American society that hates you brehs.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

These dumb nikkas don't understand family life is the root of community life.

Don't worry, most coli nikkas ain't bout shyt anyway so just let em talk.

 

[Street Knowledge]

I strongly believe in Kids being raised in 2 parent households. Whether the 2 parents are married is irrelavant to me tho

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

There's no denying that most of the values and wealth of a community are passed down through the family unit. It is the basis of culture. A legally binding contract doesn't guarantee that one won't opt out of it, but I ultimately can't find any incentive that a couple today would have trying raise a child outside of marriage in a traditional nuclear unit. I mean atleast with marriage you get certain tax credits, which translates into more disposable income, property and inheritance rights, etc. You could cover all that with a will but lets keep it real for a sec............

I mean look at our community right now. Very few if any of us are doing that. Out of the 76 percent of couples who do procreate outside of marriage only 5 percent of the biological fathers are are an active presence in their child's life. Now we already understand that across the board children raised by single parents are at a significant statistical disadvantage in regards to future income, education, the legal justice system, and behavioral issues. So lets stop pretending that most unwed couples are thinking in the long term.

I'm not against bachelorhood or the anti marriage crowd but against people who don't have any intent on raising a family they started and that goes for married or unmarried couples. Thats indirectly harming our community whether you realize it or not

the problem with this post and what the OP was saying is that is assume's everyone in a relationship wan'ts to have children.

 

[Ain't That Something]

There's no denying that most of the values and wealth of a community are passed down through the family unit. It is the basis of culture. A legally binding contract doesn't guarantee that one won't opt out of it, but I ultimately can't find any incentive that a couple today would have trying raise a child outside of marriage in a traditional nuclear unit. I mean atleast with marriage you get certain tax credits, which translates into more disposable income, property and inheritance rights, etc. You could cover all that with a will but lets keep it real for a sec............

I mean look at our community right now. Very few if any of us are doing that. Out of the 76 percent of couples who do procreate outside of marriage only 5 percent of the biological fathers are are an active presence in their child's life. Now we already understand that across the board children raised by single parents are at a significant statistical disadvantage in regards to future income, education, the legal justice system, and behavioral issues. So lets stop pretending that most unwed couples are thinking in the long term.

I'm not against bachelorhood or the anti marriage crowd but against people who don't have any intent on raising a family they started and that goes for married or unmarried couples. Thats indirectly harming our community whether you realize it or not

My only question is how in the fukk are they coming up with these statistics. What are the variables and constant measured, I may not be a stat major but I ain't no fool either.

 

[Humble (Not) Mike Tyson]

@Reverend Jesse Jackson


Apart of improving anything is lookin at the success of others.

This dudes don't get it; but, these world is ran by #GMB types. Families are how communities are built.

Are courts killing men? That's debatable.

But, the alternative is fractured homes, because brothas want to live their second childhoods and be a bachelor for life, instead of improving the social system of marriage and promoting communities.

Until ppl en masse are building social economic bases off single parent homes, miss me with "its just a piece of paper."

All these communities and ppl thecoli hates build their bases on family and marriages.

Idiocy. What the fukk does a city hall document have to do with being pro black?

Give me one example of a community building an viable economic base with a system off maintaining wealth, developing fiscally empowered youths and creating wealth to pass on...that was build off single moms and fathers who "still did right by the kids"?

Just one, please.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

@Reverend Jesse Jackson


Apart of improving anything is lookin at the success of others.

This dudes don't get it; but, these world is ran by #GMB types. Families are how communities are built.

Are courts killing men? That's debatable.

But, the alternative is fractured homes, because brothas want to live their second childhoods and be a bachelor for life, instead of improving the social system of marriage and promoting communities.

Until ppl en masse are building social economic bases off single parent homes, miss me with "its just a piece of paper."

All these communities and ppl thecoli hates build their bases on family and marriages.

Give me one example of a community building an viable economic base with a system off maintaining wealth, developing fiscally empowered youths and creating wealth to pass on...that was build off single moms and fathers who "still did right by the kids"?

Just one, please.

what about black men that don't want kids, should they also sign this piece of paper called a marriage certificate