I can't support anyone on here who is "pro-black community" but anti-marriage

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It's just a piece of paper.
So is a deed, a birth certificate, a car title.
 
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Over 70 posts......and not ONE nikka can explain what it is about a business contract (that a woman can opt out of any time and take a big chunk of your money & property) that makes a stronger family unit, than one where a mother and father simply stays together in the same house, raise their kids and grow old together, without the ceremony and high-risk, one-sided contract

Marriage itself don't have shyt to do with the black family. Men and women actually staying together and raising their kids in the same home, is a different story. The problem is, some of y'all honestly believe the 2 are the same thing, and they're NOT. And they don't HAVE to be.
 

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They don't. There are many families I've seen doing just fine that way, in my career and personal life.

They're an anomaly. The institution of marriage will always do the 'black community' better than the opposite.
 

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but the piece of paper doesn't really deter members from "breaking up the unit" :heh: divorce is often costly. the money spent towards lawyers and such would benefit the family more than anything.


and what penalties should women suffer for wanting to end their marriage, since they are usually the ones initiating divorce.

"The penalties for divorce are not enough as is."

do you read? And lets not turn this into a man vs woman thread. Divorce trend change radically every decade.


And the piece of paper was pretty effective for 99% of human history, it just needs to be updates for the modern age
 

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Learn what idealized means :mjlol:



And American culture/community is at a low.



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Right and you know that is not getting fixed anytime soon, there is a disconnect between men and women in general these days. So what should we do. For all the complaining we do about fatherless black kids there are a lot of white kids in mixed families right now and that in my opinion is just as bad.
 

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LOOOL somehow you've found a way to turn this topic back on to it somehow being 'women's fault'

can u have one debate where it doesn't follow the usually 'women do this, women do that' :dead:

fukk outta nikka, these are facts. 70% of divorces are initiated by the woman. which is ironic because i'm willing to bet at least 70% of the women started that marriage talk first. so i want to know what punishment the main perpetrators of divorce should receive, if @Poitier had his way.
 

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"The penalties for divorce are not enough as is."

do you read? And lets not turn this into a man vs woman thread. Divorce trend change radically every decade.


And the piece of paper was pretty effective for 99% of human history, it just needs to be updates for the modern age

i heard you, i want to know what harsher penalties should be in place. :usure:

we've been dealing with divorce courts, alimony, child support, spousal support, and asset splits for 99% of human history :krs: you stay teaching me something new
 

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fukk outta nikka, these are facts. 70% of divorces are initiated by the woman. which is ironic because i'm willing to bet at least 70% of the women started that marriage talk first. so i want to know what punishment the main perpetrators of divorce should receive, if @Poitier had his way.

And why do these 70% of women initiate these divorces ?

There lies your answer. Or do you follow the coli logic that 70% of women divorce their husbands because they are 'bored'. Get real.

The angle you're trying to take this debate into has NOTHING to do with the OP. The OP is about the fact that black people should encourage a marital nuclear unit in order to strengthen the black community.

We should have more husbands and wives, we should have more kids growing up with that as an example. This is common sense. Now you're talking about divorce and what punishment women should get

:laugh: what does that have to do with anything :laugh:

we are really gonna start discussing 'women's punishment' :laugh:

and answer the question as to why they are initiating divorce. Also, that's the statistic for ALL races. Pretty sure this convo is black specific.
 

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They're an anomaly. The institution of marriage will always do the 'black community' better than the opposite.
And why do these 70% of women initiate these divorces ?

There lies your answer. Or do you follow the coli logic that 70% of women divorce their husbands because they are 'bored'. Get real.

The angle you're trying to take this debate into has NOTHING to do with the OP. The OP is about the fact that black people should encourage a marital nuclear unit in order to strengthen the black community.

We should have more husbands and wives, we should have more kids growing up with that as an example. This is common sense. Now you're talking about divorce and what punishment women should get

:laugh: what does that have to do with anything :laugh:

we are really gonna start discussing 'women's punishment' :laugh:

and answer the question as to why they are initiating divorce. Also, that's the statistic for ALL races. Pretty sure this convo is black specific.
That's fine that you prefer stability, but that statistic you just quote and the 50 percent divorce rate show marriage does not guarantee stability.
 

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fukk outta nikka, these are facts. 70% of divorces are initiated by the woman. which is ironic because i'm willing to bet at least 70% of the women started that marriage talk first. so i want to know what punishment the main perpetrators of divorce should receive, if @Poitier had his way.

You don't know this...

why is initiation of a divorce an important factor?...

A woman should continue being cheated on, beaten, and in a toxic relationship just so the dude can initiate divorce?
 
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