I don't ever want to hear about Obama's "red line" statement again

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This is going to be worse than Iraq and Afghanistan combined . Iraq and Afghanistan were no threat to the US military and it cost us over a trillion dollars to fight both countries, Iran on the other hand has been preparing for this for a long time. They've been spending heavy money on their military since the 80's. This cheeto is going to destroy this country economy, AGAIN!!!
I pray that none of my brothers and sisters are in the military. This ain't a war to fight.....
 

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the problem with Obama's red line was not the threat but his reaction after it was crossed. Him prevaricating and then choosing not to react is what made the establishment freak out.
 

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What are you :what:about nikka?

Russia is a giant gas station...They have economic ties with the Iranians...Russia and Iran are China's biggest suppliers...All three have an alliance...

The Syrian war was an attempt by the US government to hault a gas pipeline that would run through Iran-Iraq-Syria...That's why the Russians had to get involved and they will do the same thing if Bannon and his orangutan decide to go after Iran...

:mjlol: you're still wrong
 

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White privilege. Obama had to be smarter, more intelligent, more professional, more thoughtful and more everything than white people to be in the position he was in. Trump has half the intellect, intelligence,professionalism etc Obama has but it's ok because to them white mediocrity => black excellence to them. You'll even have some white people that will look you dead in the eye and tell you that he has more intellect, more professionalism, more intelligence, more classiness, etc than Obama.

If Obama did any of this you know what would happen.

I'm not saying he ain't have a hand or two up his ass, but Obama actually tried to govern and had to walk on eggshells for himself and the rest of the country like no other president has before.
 
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This is going to be worse than Iraq and Afghanistan combined . Iraq and Afghanistan were no threat to the US military and it cost us over a trillion dollars to fight both countries, Iran on the other hand has been preparing for this for a long time. They've been spending heavy money on their military since the 80's. This cheeto is going to destroy this country economy, AGAIN!!!
Not saying I am for it, but how exactly does military spending destroy the economy? Deficit spending on wars is positive for the economy, all else equal.
 

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This is going to be worse than Iraq and Afghanistan combined . Iraq and Afghanistan were no threat to the US military and it cost us over a trillion dollars to fight both countries, Iran on the other hand has been preparing for this for a long time. They've been spending heavy money on their military since the 80's. This cheeto is going to destroy this country economy, AGAIN!!!
They just need to find a new focal point for a hate campaign and stroke fear, Iran fits the bill, ISIS is pathetic and China is out of the question.

The problem is ability, the US is not able to attack Iran at the moment.

The diplomatic and economic avenues have been closed by the P5+1 Nuclear Deal, and the US will never again get UN authority to do anything.

This only leaves an illegitimate solo strike against Iran probably with Israel.

If they do this crazy action, there will be no limits, no such thing as a limited air campaign.

If you hit Iranian sites, you will lose Iraq. Afghanistan's government also equally depends on Iran as much as the US and they can pull the plug of support. $6 trillion on both of those projects since 2001 and you lose both due to a war with Iran. :mjlol:

You will have daily missile strikes on Bahrain's US bases and the temptation to put boots on the ground to "defend allies" will be irresistible.

You'd piss off countries like India, Turkey, and South Korea who are US allies benefiting from Iranian trade and energy. You'd effectively destroy or damage parts of their economies.

If you are stupid enough to start a war with Iran you are stupid enough to invade and the US doesn't even have half the manpower necessary and it would cost trillions.

Lets wait and see, but this sounds like bluffing and bluster.
 

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Do you guys foresee any mutiny in the armed forces if Trump starts a war? Especially since the forces have a lot of blacks and Hispanics and his administration is hostile to both groups. This empire needs to fall.
 

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The draft is coming breh

That's how Trump going to bring back all those manufacturing jobs.

All those jobs were lost after ww2

They will be regained by ww3 :blessed:

What a time to be alive!!
:patrice: maybe why dual citizenships is so problematic with him.
Good thing I already got multiple passports at my disposal :ehh:
 

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Do you guys foresee any mutiny in the armed forces if Trump starts a war? Especially since the forces have a lot of blacks and Hispanics and his administration is hostile to both groups. This empire needs to fall.
I think he would be impeached if a faction of the military began to rebel. Next level shyt.
 

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I think he would be impeached if a faction of the military began to rebel. Next level shyt.
How do most Brehs currently in the military view trump though, that's the question. I mean cacs in the military gotta be shook too, after he said fukk ranking intelligence officials and placed Bannon at the head of national security.
@twan83 @Black Jesus @MegaTronBomb!
 

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What are you :what:about nikka?

Russia is a giant gas station...They have economic ties with the Iranians...Russia and Iran are China's biggest suppliers...All three have an alliance...

The Syrian war was an attempt by the US government to hault a gas pipeline that would run through Iran-Iraq-Syria...That's why the Russians had to get involved and they will do the same thing if Bannon and his orangutan decide to go after Iran...
Russians are white, so the Trump base isn't concerned or impressed. Saber rattling at Iran represents a "take no shyt" approach to "radical Islamic terrorism", which his base eats up. People who hate him will never nothate him. Trump's job is to keep his supporters on his side.
 

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Do you guys foresee any mutiny in the armed forces if Trump starts a war? Especially since the forces have a lot of blacks and Hispanics and his administration is hostile to both groups. This empire needs to fall.

It is clear that there is a civil war in the US deep state, and a war with Iran would allow victory for Trump's suporters and gain support from the neocons (who opposed him) over their rivals allowing them to cement their power.

Russia and China are risk averse and want a stable Iran to protect their vulnerable underbelly in Central Asia. Diplomatic support is high and deals are being implemented.

But if the US acts irrationally into another stupid war, there is a lot of gain for Moscow/Beijing from a geostrategic point of view.

This will accelerate the decline of the US Empire and if Iran is to sacrificed so be it.

Though I really doubt it will come to that.
 
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