I gave you power is just... I just have no words

[BLAZO da GAWD]

Top 5 album for me.

 

[Art Barr]

Art Barr needs to stop polluting my thread with his negativity and hatred



Listen I don't give a fukk whether you think the song was bitten, if your old dusty ass thinks this song isn't a certified classic then just gtfo of here and keep it moving. You're ass aint welcome in this church no more heathen

Wants to start talking about living near politicians when he can't find 5 bucks to throw at a site he's been posting on since '98

Keep talking and sellinG wolf tickets and you gon get tabled't the fukk up in your own thread.
nikkas making threads about records with controversy.
The thread content will include said controversy.

I can not help it if, nas sold out and bit.
If the instances did not occur, I would not talk about it.
You nikkas wanna give props, but fail to realize.
When you sellout as an artist.
You have to deal with the dialogue, and contents of your act.
When your sellout artistry is brought up.


Don't get mad at me,..
Get mad at nas for biting.


Art Barr

 

[spliz]

I just got literal goosebumps on my arms and my head felt like It was shrinking from Monch on stray bullet.

IWW ain't even on the iPod.

Son...stop derailing the thread..lol..make a thread about Organized Konfusion..we understand u dont like IWW...

 

[spliz]

So lets get this straight...NOONE after Organized Konfusion is allowed to make a song using personification involving weaponry?..ok..gotcha..lmao..smh..if hip hop had this mentality it woulda been done in the 80s...real talk..those songs sound NOTHING alike...not the same vibe..not the same kinda beat...not the same kinda flow...one is about a bullet..one is about a gun...both had completely different approaches...not even done in the same year...and somehow Nas was wrong for his song?..

 

[CELL]

Keep talking and sellinG wolf tickets and you gon get tabled't the fukk up in your own thread.
nikkas making threads about records with controversy.
The thread content will include said controversy.

I can not help it if, nas sold out and bit.
If the instances did not occur, I would not talk about it.
You nikkas wanna give props, but fail to realize.
When you sellout as an artist.
You have to deal with the dialogue, and contents of your act.
When your sellout artistry is brought up.


Don't get mad at me,..
Get mad at nas for biting.


Art Barr

First and foremost, biting is defined as: "Copying in a plagiaristic context, though mainly just unoffical fad-related things; such as made-up words, clothing styles, types of music, etc." You saying Nas, "bit" the song would mean that he PLAGIARISED the said song and didn't give his props. Find me a line that mirrors ANYTHING from the song you mentioned. I'll wait. As mentioned in this thread, Nas has spoke about the topic and given his props, even having Monch say he didn't copy and denying any sort of biting. This is forgetting the fact that you discredited Monchs opinion by calling him a sellout, all because you couldn't fall back and admit you were wrong. Aside from losing all respect I had for you for not being a man and putting your hands up and saying you were wrong when you got called out, you've continued and thrown yourself into two separate arguments all for the sake of arguing. Clearly you lack respect for Monch and Nas so outta this thread, I don't have time for any one who calls themselves a man and sits down arguing over shyt that doesn't matter. Na that's some 14 year old girl shyt.

At you thinking I'm outing you and throwing you to the lions because you somehow exposed Nas as a sellout for making a conceptual masterpiece that may have been influenced by another MC. If that's the case then the whole of Hip Hop has bitten off the soul music of the 60s/70s and 80s in terms of sampling. If that was the case then your God MC KRS-1 has completely bitten off reggae and dancehall (which he has) in his flow and delivery. But your coke infested mind is too stupid to realise that Hip Hop is so great because of its ability to take influence from the world around and paint vivid pictures to the minds of fans. Can you not like both songs without discrediting the other? Or are you too stupid to grasp that concept?

Now GTFO outta this thread.

 

[Art Barr]

First and foremost, biting is defined as: "Copying in a plagiaristic context, though mainly just unoffical fad-related things; such as made-up words, clothing styles, types of music, etc." You saying Nas, "bit" the song would mean that he PLAGIARISED the said song and didn't give his props. Find me a line that mirrors ANYTHING from the song you mentioned. I'll wait. As mentioned in this thread, Nas has spoke about the topic and given his props, even having Monch say he didn't copy and denying any sort of biting. This is forgetting the fact that you discredited Monchs opinion by calling him a sellout, all because you couldn't fall back and admit you were wrong. Aside from losing all respect I had for you for not being a man and putting your hands up and saying you were wrong when you got called out, you've continued and thrown yourself into two separate arguments all for the sake of arguing. Clearly you lack respect for Monch and Nas so outta this thread, I don't have time for any one who calls themselves a man and sits down arguing over shyt that doesn't matter. Na that's some 14 year old girl shyt.

At you thinking I'm outing you and throwing you to the lions because you somehow exposed Nas as a sellout for making a conceptual masterpiece that may have been influenced by another MC. If that's the case then the whole of Hip Hop has bitten off the soul music of the 60s/70s and 80s in terms of sampling. If that was the case then your God MC KRS-1 has completely bitten off reggae and ragaton (which he has) in his flow and delivery. But your coke infested mind is too stupid to realise that Hip Hop is so great because of its ability to take influence from the world around and paint vivid pictures to the minds of fans. Can you not like both songs without discrediting the other? Or are you too stupid to grasp that concept?

Now GTFO outta this thread.

nikka, stop deflecting and making a false case for your bullshyt .
It's your rock and biters in the city would like a word with you.

those are examples of the destruction of biting.
What you listed in your bullshyt narcissists based agenda rant.
you have conjured up to false qualify your bullshyt nas stanning.
which is why you are a fukkin toy, Chu bytch made stan ass nikka.

Art Barr

 

[CELL]

nikka, stop deflecting and making a false case for your bullshyt .
It's your rock and biters in the city would like a word with you.

Those are examples of biting.
What you listed is the narcissists based agenda you have to false qualify your bullshyt nas stanning.
which is why you are a fukkin toy, Chu bytch made ass nikka.

Art Barr

What case? You're done here old man, I've chewed you and finished you and all you have left is frivolous insults.

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

Keep talking and sellinG wolf tickets and you gon get tabled't the fukk up in your own thread.
nikkas making threads about records with controversy.
The thread content will include said controversy.

I can not help it if, nas sold out and bit.
If the instances did not occur, I would not talk about it.
You nikkas wanna give props, but fail to realize.
When you sellout as an artist.
You have to deal with the dialogue, and contents of your act.
When your sellout artistry is brought up.


Don't get mad at me,..
Get mad at nas for biting.


Art Barr

this is bullshyt, so Nas is biting because he have a song who's have a concept similar to an another ? In my eyes I gave you power was more chocking and better executed than stray bullet, but that's not even my point. Fact is both songs are good and explore differents perspective. No one gave a fukk Nas took the same sample as Scientifik for memory lane. Hip hop is based on sampling which was once considered by elders as biting as well, if so, commercial rap shouldn't even exist if biting would have been talking that seriously. And to me there's a difference between biting, being influenced, paying hommage and most probably in Nas case, just doing a thing similar to another cat on coincidence. Cause I don't even think Nas listened to stray bullet or thought of the song when he made I gave you power.
Nas knows his old school but is not a student of the game like that, he used to think Gza was the guy rapping on BIBLE. You really think he heard stray bullet and decided, I have to do the same thing ? The intensity, social thought and narration he put on I gave you power is something you just can't bite.

And let me tell you some, about the all Nas sellout bla bla bla, it was written is the reason right now Nas career is what it is right, if he had listen to cats like you who wanted illmatic pt2, the cat would be like oc, kool g rap or cats like canibus. Struggling to just drop an album every 5 years and with little recognizion

You can't be in the game 20 years deep and being a sellout, because your artistry get tested. That's what happenned to nas and he learned and shifted in early 2000's. Jay did sellout and continue to be a sellout, but he's an exception, with the help of beyonce and later kanye he became the face of rap for the guys outside of hip hop, so no matter what the quality of the music he drops he still will sell. But even yhose deep in hip hop start to contest his artistry, thing they didn't do too much 5 or 6 years ago.

 

[Woodrow]

HELLLLLLL NOOOOO....

Nobody gives a flying f_ck about the OK song you talking about...I heard it once because somebody posted it, and that was it...

One of Premo's greatest beats...

If Nas had made this a double album, with 1 disc grimmey NY beats and the other disc flashy Trackmaster beats...It would have been the greatest Hip Hop album EVER...

at that point in his career.. i believe it.

 

[Foxmulder]

this is bullshyt, so Nas is biting because he have a song who's have a concept similar to an another ? In my eyes I gave you power was more chocking and better executed than stray bullet, but that's not even my point. Fact is both songs are good and explore differents perspective. Know one gave a fukk Nas took the same same as Scientifik for memory lane. Hip hop is based on sampling which was once considered by elders as biting as well, if so, commercial rap shouldn't even exist if biting would have been talking that seriously. And to me there's a diffence between niting, being influenced, paying hommage and most probably in Nas case, just doing a thing similar to another cat on coincidence. Caus I don't even think Nas listened to stray bullet or tought of the song when he made I gave you power.
Nas knows his old school but is not a student of the game like that, he used to think Gza was the guy rapping on BIBLE. You reaaly thing he heard stray bullet and decided, I have to do the same thing ? The intensity, social thought and narration he put on I gave you power is somthing you just can't bite.

And let me tell you some, about the all Nas sellout bla bla bla, it was written is the reason right now Nas career is xhat it is right, if he had listen to cats like out who wanted illmatic pt2, the cat would be like oc, kool g rap or cats like canibus. Struggling to just drop an album every 5 years and with little recognizion

You can't be in the game 20 years deep and being a sellout, because your artistry get tested. That's what happenned to nas and he learned and shifted in early 2000's. Jay did sellout and continue to be a sellout, but he's an exception, with the help of beyonce and latter kanye he became the face of rap for the guy outside hip hop, so no matter what the quality of the music he drops he still will sell. But wats in hip hop start to contest his artistry, thing they didn't do too much 5 or 6 years ago.

Exactly.I believe nas when he said he didn't hear it.

Anybody hating on IWW just don't like nas.Album is a masterpiece.

 

[N*IT*2*WIN*IT]

 

[Bed$tuy]

this is bullshyt, so Nas is biting because he have a song who's have a concept similar to an another ? In my eyes I gave you power was more chocking and better executed than stray bullet, but that's not even my point. Fact is both songs are good and explore differents perspective. No one gave a fukk Nas took the same sample as Scientifik for memory lane. Hip hop is based on sampling which was once considered by elders as biting as well, if so, commercial rap shouldn't even exist if biting would have been talking that seriously. And to me there's a difference between biting, being influenced, paying hommage and most probably in Nas case, just doing a thing similar to another cat on coincidence. Cause I don't even think Nas listened to stray bullet or thought of the song when he made I gave you power.
Nas knows his old school but is not a student of the game like that, he used to think Gza was the guy rapping on BIBLE. You really think he heard stray bullet and decided, I have to do the same thing ? The intensity, social thought and narration he put on I gave you power is something you just can't bite.

And let me tell you some, about the all Nas sellout bla bla bla, it was written is the reason right now Nas career is what it is right, if he had listen to cats like you who wanted illmatic pt2, the cat would be like oc, kool g rap or cats like canibus. Struggling to just drop an album every 5 years and with little recognizion

You can't be in the game 20 years deep and being a sellout, because your artistry get tested. That's what happenned to nas and he learned and shifted in early 2000's. Jay did sellout and continue to be a sellout, but he's an exception, with the help of beyonce and later kanye he became the face of rap for the guys outside of hip hop, so no matter what the quality of the music he drops he still will sell. But even yhose deep in hip hop start to contest his artistry, thing they didn't do too much 5 or 6 years ago.

excellent post

 

[JuvenileHell]

I honestly don't get the hate for IWW...I really don't. Could someone really break it down for me? I would understand if IWW was full of some shiny suit era type production and such...but with tracks like Suspect (My fav on the album), I Gave You Power, Take It In Blood, Shootouts and so on, I don't see how Nas sold out. Nas was probably at his best on IWW lyrically (Especially). He was on some other shyt,

But then again I wasn't even cognizant about Reggae/Soca music in '96 (And I live in the Caribbean), much less rap, so maybe I'm missing something?

 

[Foxmulder]

I honestly don't get the hate for IWW...I really don't. Could someone really break it down for me? I would understand if IWW was full of some shiny suit era type production and such...but with tracks like Suspect (My fav on the album), I Gave You Power, Take It In Blood, Shootouts and so on, I don't see how Nas sold out. Nas was probably at his best on IWW lyrically (Especially). He was on some other shyt,

But then again I wasn't even cognizant about Reggae/Soca music in '96 (And I live in the Caribbean), much less rap, so maybe I'm missing something?

The hate came from backpackers and the hip hop media.

 

[spliz]

I honestly don't get the hate for IWW...I really don't. Could someone really break it down for me? I would understand if IWW was full of some shiny suit era type production and such...but with tracks like Suspect (My fav on the album), I Gave You Power, Take It In Blood, Shootouts and so on, I don't see how Nas sold out. Nas was probably at his best on IWW lyrically (Especially). He was on some other shyt,

But then again I wasn't even cognizant about Reggae/Soca music in '96 (And I live in the Caribbean), much less rap, so maybe I'm missing something?

The hate was unjustified...other cats got praised for shyt Nas got criticized for.