From the research I've done it factually seems to of existed. I haven't heard anyone deny it's existence in the past at least. I get where your coming from though, about how a lot of people just blame the Illumanti now instead of doing for self, I feel that, and understand, I'm just talking historically. But regardless I certainly believe there are organisations and groups who yield a lot of negative influence and power regardless of what there called. The Bilderberg group and all that. There's a few ways to look at that, I don't view it as superntaural, I look at is as something organized and contrived so they yield power and control. I'm not a believer in mysticism, and I don't know if the actual Illumanti group exists or not, but I know for a fact there are some very dark disgusting groups out there, some of them do practice satanic/ritualistic shyt too. I don't let it stagnate me or stop me but I have to accept that they exist. The whole celebrity thing I agree is bullshyt, I think a lot of that is put out there to distract us and let us focus on irrelevant issues. But fam there ARE elite groups out there, that are highly connected that do evil things. For instance the Jiimmy Saville cause in England, that was a pedophile network, consisting of many celebrities elite figures, he was made a Sir and had strong links with several primeministers/ministers (some of which have been outed as pedofiles) and he had strong links with the royal family too. These are all factual things unfortunately. I wish it wern't true, but some of this shyt unfortunately is. But I believe as well as SOME of it being true there is also an EXTREME amount of bullshyt and misinformation. I'll never let anything (and i can't) distract me from white supremacy/racism but some of it is linked and there are also other issues externally from that. Again with the devil worship, some people do that too.. I know it's weird and warped to normal human beings, I don't know why they do that shyt but they do. It's fukked up.. I'm not the type of person that believes a bunch of bullshyt from youtube videos, most of that shyt is a joke and fabrication, however I have numerous evidence about a lot of this shyt, including direct accounts from people. Regarding some of the satanic abuse, numerous victims that didn't know eachother said the same thing. It's not like a lot of people believe, but there are elements there.