I Got a Job Offer Today, Need Negotiation Tips!

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Two of my career goals for 2015 were to work on a new project and get a raise, which means switching companies. Tuesday, I got a call from a consultant about a job and today I had my interview. At the end of the interview, the manager asked me when I could start (:leostare:). 20 minutes into my trip home, I got the call about being offered the job.
I'm excited about the offer but I feel an immense amount of stress over it right now. I'll list the pros and cons

CONS:
Job is a 4-6 month temp to perm position. After that, the consultant assured me that the company does hire most people. -- I'm concerned about giving up my stable job for something that might not pan out in the end.
For the 4-6 months that I'm a temp employee, I'll have no benefits -- I've never had to navigate the healthcare system on my own. I wouldn't know where to start...Obamacare? Not only that but I won't be getting any contribution to my 401K during that time. Also, even if I do get the job, I won't be eligible for 401K company contribution until 1 year into being employed
Although I want to move on, I didn't expect the opportunity to present itself so quickly. | I'm being a punk I know it...
If after the 4-6 months, it's possible that they don't make me perm | Unemployed??:usure: No bueno:snoop:


PROS:
The salary I was offered is $8K more than what I currently make
I'll be working on a cutting edge project, with a company that will look great on my resume
I could be made a permanent employee!! Once permanent, I can renegotiate for more money.
Benefits kick in upon being made permanent:
2 Weeks Vacation / Year, 5 Days Sick Days / Year, Short & Long Term Disability (Company Paid), 401K with matching contributions after 1 year, Health Insurance (Company pays 80% of coverage cost), 8 Paid Holidays
No RISK No REWARD! This could be a huge learning experience for me

I kinda feel pressured by the consultant to take the job; he wants my answer by tomorrow. They want me to put in my two weeks on Monday and I'm honestly not feeling that. Since I have a job, I feel like I'm going to push the envelope and see how bad they want me.

I've decided to play my hand and alter the original terms...First of all I'm going to tell him that I'll give him my final decision on Monday, rather then tomorrow. Then Monday, I'm going to accept the offer but only if they pay me one more dollar and give me a future 3 week start date.

I'm goin in!!! From the $1,000 to $100,000 Coli Brehs, gimme some negotiating tips!

Also I want to mention that I might have another interview within the next two weeks...
 
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:yeshrug: Idk what to tell you, the risks and rewards of the job are pretty even. You know what scratch dat, take the job, sometimes you gotta just take chances. Hopefully u have some emergency money on the side just in case.
 
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Well you better take into account the opportunity cost of the things you will lose from your old job. You're right there's no risk without reward but don't cry if you're on your ass in this economy. It's cold outside for a lot of people and in 4-6 months something could happen to set you back 4-6 years. All I can tell you is you better think long and hard, so I hope it's worth it. I look at a lot of things in worst case scenario. Company starts laying off and you're temp, 8k could be enough to potentially put you in a higher tax bracket offsetting any possible gains in salary, I hear Obamacare has really fukked a lot of people up, and etc... I'd do my best to figure out the monetary value overall (of all you could lose) and see if they can't give you a sign on bonus to offset.
 
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PrnzHakeem said:
Risks ain't worth it unless you can deal with possibly being unemployed after ward. They tell you that they will renegotiate your salary, but they have ALL the leverage. They could just offer you another 6 month contract and your accept it
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I was thinking about this.
 
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you want a tip? Suck dikk like your life depends on it. jj/p

But foreals, don't be greedy - just be glad you got a job offer... nikkas out here starving for a paycheck. Be polite and kind - and put the team first. Don't demand shyt because there are 10 other nikkas behind you willing to work damn near free
 
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DemureNatural said:
Two of my career goals for 2015 were to work on a new project and get a raise, which means switching companies. Tuesday, I got a call from a consultant about a job and today I had my interview. At the end of the interview, the manager asked me when I could start (:leostare:). 20 minutes into my trip home, I got the call about being offered the job.
I'm excited about the offer but I feel an immense amount of stress over it right now. I'll list the pros and cons

CONS:
Job is a 4-6 month temp to perm position. After that, the consultant assured me that the company does hire most people. -- I'm concerned about giving up my stable job for something that might not pan out in the end.
For the 4-6 months that I'm a temp employee, I'll have no benefits -- I've never had to navigate the healthcare system on my own. I wouldn't know where to start...Obamacare? Not only that but I won't be getting any contribution to my 401K during that time. Also, even if I do get the job, I won't be eligible for 401K company contribution until 1 year into being employed
Although I want to move on, I didn't expect the opportunity to present itself so quickly. | I'm being a punk I know it...
If after the 4-6 months, it's possible that they don't make me perm | Unemployed??:usure: No bueno:snoop:


PROS:
The salary I was offered is $8K more than what I currently make
I'll be working on a cutting edge project, with a company that will look great on my resume
I could be made a permanent employee!! Once permanent, I can renegotiate for more money.
Benefits kick in upon being made permanent:
2 Weeks Vacation / Year, 5 Days Sick Days / Year, Short & Long Term Disability (Company Paid), 401K with matching contributions after 1 year, Health Insurance (Company pays 80% of coverage cost), 8 Paid Holidays
No RISK No REWARD! This could be a huge learning experience for me

I kinda feel pressured by the consultant to take the job; he wants my answer by tomorrow. They want me to put in my two weeks on Monday and I'm honestly not feeling that. Since I have a job, I feel like I'm going to push the envelope and see how bad they want me.

I've decided to play my hand and alter the original terms...First of all I'm going to tell him that I'll give him my final decision on Monday, rather then tomorrow. Then Monday, I'm going to accept the offer but only if they pay me one more dollar and give me a future 3 week start date.

I'm goin in!!! From the $1,000 to $100,000 Coli Brehs, gimme some negotiating tips!

Also I want to mention that I might have another interview within the next two weeks...
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be very careful with with contract jobs. they say they'll hire you but u goto understand, things can change. u can get letgo or fired a lot easily than you would if u had a full time job. also, during holidays, u dont get paid.
 
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Take the new job. Its 8k more per year. You can continue your health benefits thru COBRA...that shouldnt be a concern at all. As far as your 401k...you can contribute to your retirement out of pocket as well. You'll have to speak to the company that handles your 401k for the details.

The only concern would be the fact that you are going from a secure job into a contract one. I would take the new salary and job offer to my current employer and see if they will match/beat. If they say no, then I would hand in my notice.

At this new, temporary job...I would start looking for a new job before my contract was up. If I found a new job, I would tell this contract job that they can either hire me on as a full employee or I'll have to move on.

I definitely wouldnt go in there swinging my dikk around tho...sayin I'll let you if I want the job when I let you know...and I'll leave my current job when I wanna leave. You're making things a little difficult for no reason. Even if the agree, you might be walking into a new job having already kinda rubbed your bosses the wrong way.
 
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:patrice:Tough. You can put out feelers to try and increase your position at your current job by asking, within reason, for sweeter
terms. However, a couple things to consider:

1. Are you indispensable at your current job. You can hold out, spread your resume and make contacts, and wait for something full-time
that calls for you. If you aren't a huge asset, your very expression of wanting more at your current job can cause them to look at you
as "one foot out the door" and they open the Rolodex for other potential hires. Rocking the boat should only be necessary if you absolutely
need to make a career move and are willing to lose everything to gain more.

2. The 8k may not be worth the new environment. If you have been with your current place any significant length of time, switching things up
can put you in an environment where you hate going daily and your work performance will show it.

Obviously, nothing ventured, nothing gained, but if you don't have savings already, just in case you jump ship and it doesn't work out, you could
be paying for this for a couple years in debt and lost productivity. If your current situation isn't too bad, that 8k may not be worth it right this moment.
 
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